Thursday, April 5, 2012

Nationality Problem Posed by Romney

George,

So what am I? Chopped liver? I have been screaming about the Romney ineligibility for at least four months on the Obama Ballot Challenge (OBC) webpage and outside the OBC ever since Romney announced his candidacy early in 2011. You can see some of my posts:

http://noonan4president.blogspot.com/2012/01/mitt-romney-is-not-natural-born-citizen.html

http://noonan4president.blogspot.com/2012/01/mitt-romney-as-not-natural-born-citizen.html

http://noonan4president.blogspot.com/2011/12/re-mitt-romney-is-not-natural-born.html

http://noonan4president.blogspot.com/2011/12/mitt-romney-is-not-natural-born-citizen_31.html

http://noonan4president.blogspot.com/2011/12/mitt-romney-is-not-natural-born-citizen.html

http://noonan4president.blogspot.com/2011/12/this-just-came-in-and-is-dated-and.html

But never the less… I am appreciative of Ms. Guerra for helping with the translation of the Mexican Constitution. I have been doing all I could to find the actual Constitution that would have applied in 1907 at the Mexican birth of George Romney...but this will do just fine.

GOOGLE TRANSLATE confirms Guerra’s claim that “birth on Mexican soil” automatically makes Mitten’s father a “Mexican citizen.” The Mexican Constitution did not provide for DUAL CITIZENSHIP (in 1884-1910). So unless George Romney and his descendants can provide written proof that they kept their American Citizenship when they went to Mexico to “colonize that foreign nation of Mexico” and left the "jurisdiction" of the American government, then they lost their American citizenship. PERIOD!

At this point the long form birth certificate of George Romney must be produced to show that Mittens Romney is indeed a citizen. What country does his birth certificate prove that he is a citizen of? Else how does George and Mitt Romney claim their American citizenship?

SHOW ME THE MEXICAN LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

¿Comprendè amigo?

Edward C. Noonan
President 2012

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from: GeorgeM microcapmaven@aol.com
date: Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:32 AM
subject: [Obama State Ballot Challenge 2012] Nationality Problem Posed by Romney
mailing list: Obama State Ballot Challenge

You would think that out of 310 million people living in the USA that we could find a few good natural born Citizens to run for President? Apparently NOT. “Obama,” Rubio, Jindal are all ineligible. Santorum and Romney have not actually established their eligibility either. Actually there are other candidates you probably haven’t heard of, including five who challenge “Obama’s” eligibility. And of course, we have Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich. In the interest of even-handed non-partisanship, Mr. Guerra delves into the Romney issue.

by Rene Guerra, April 4, 2012


Ha! Here is a constitutional monkey wrench that fell from the sky in the very middle of Mitt Romney’s eligibility.

Don’t shoot the messenger if you don’t like the message; rather do something to help solve the problem to your satisfaction.

As you know, his father, George, was born in Mexico.

According to the Mexican Constitution:

(My translation to Spanish is between brackets)
CONSTITUCION POLITICA DE LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS MEXICANOS [Constitution of Mexico]
TITULO PRIMERO [Title 1]

CAPITULO II DE LOS MEXICANOS [Chapter II of Mexicans]

Artículo 30
[Article 30]
Folio: 8311
ARTICULO 30. LA NACIONALIDAD MEXICANA SE ADQUIERE POR NACIMIENTO O POR NATURALIZACION. [Article 30. The Mexican nationality is acquired by birth or by naturalization]
A).- SON MEXICANOS POR NACIMIENTO: [A).- Mexicans by birth are:]
I. LOS QUE NAZCAN EN TERRITORIO DE LA REPUBLICA, SEA CUAL FUERE LA NACIONALIDAD DE SUS PADRES;

[I. Those that are born in territory of the [Mexican] republic, regardless the nationality of the parents.] This applies to Mitt’s father, George Romney, who was born in Colonia Dublán, city of Galeana, state of Chihuahua, Mexico…thus becoming a Mexican at the moment of his birth. His parents returned to the U.S. when he was five and lived the rest of his life in the U.S. The rub is that he never abjured his Mexican nationality, which still possessed when he begot Mitt.

II.- LOS QUE NAZCAN EN EL EXTRANJERO, HIJOS DE PADRES MEXICANOS NACIDOS EN TERRITORIO NACIONAL, DE PADRE MEXICANO NACIDO EN TERRITORIO NACIONAL, O DE MADRE MEXICANA NACIDA EN TERRITORIO NACIONAL;

[II.- Those that are born abroad and are the children of Mexican parents born in Mexican territory, or are the children of a Mexican father that was born in Mexican territory, or are the children of a Mexican mother born in Mexican territory] The sentence highlighted yellow applies to Mitt Romney himself; Mitt Romney inherited the Mexican nationality from his father; Romney carries the Mexican nationality.

Thus Romney has dual nationality; American by jus-sanguinis and jus-soli, and Mexican, by jus-sanguinis.

Consequently, Romney has to abjure the Mexican nationality in writing; the closest Mexican consulate could provide him the forms to submit and other pertinent information.

By the way, don’t “rush to judgment” with Marco Rubio or Bobby Jindal as possible candidates to Vice President.

When Rubio and Jindal were born, their parents were not American citizens yet. The “Natural Born” issue will haunt them.

Imagine Romney as President, with dual nationality, and a Vice-President (who would succeed Romney whenever the situation rises) with “Natural Born” issues!!!

That would be huge a tamale of an imbroglio, and worse, it would hamper, if not derail, any thorough investigation about all around Obama once he vacates White House premises…for, no matter who bumps Obama off the White House on November 6, Obama must be minutely investigated once he leaves the White House.

But wait, there is more for Romney to fix.

His father, George, was a fan of Saul Alinsky, as shown in the two photographs that someone shared with me and which follow:



Mitt has to abjure his father’s mentoring; he has heavyweight abjuring to do.

Now, instead of getting mad at me for bringing this up, you who support Romney, somehow convey the message to him that, if he will be the GOP nominee, he should better fix this ASAP.

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