from: "From the Desk of Edward C. Noonan" ednoonan7@gmail.com
to: Robert Gorgoglione
date: Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:19 PM
subject: Re: ---MITT ROMNEY'S DAD (GEORGE) WAS A SAUL ALINSKY FOLLOWER?
Robert,
Thanks for this forwarded post. I was unaware that George Romney was such a pal with Saul Alinsky. I have a better understanding now of the reason why Mitt Romney is such a Marxist puppet. The quote of George seems to be going viral: ""I think you ought to listen to Alinsky," Romney told his reluctant white friends. "It seems to me that we are always talking to the same people. Maybe the time has come to hear new voices." Said an Episcopal bishop, "He made Alinsky sound like a Republican."
This is my cropped photo of Romney (left), and Alinsky (right)
Read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/romney-saul-alinsky-6644106#ixzz1kjoa4NDA
I did some researching and discovered that Mitt Romney is hated in Mass. One anti-Rummie webpage is http://www.massresistance.org/. I find it amusing that Mass RESISTANCE reports: "Front page of Boston homosexual newspaper "Bay Windows" on August 31, 1994, when Mitt Romney was running for US Senate against Ted Kennedy, Romney told the homosexual activists, "I'll be better than Ted Kennedy on gay rights."
Mass Resistance has the following clip of the gay newspaper front page:
Mass Resistance also lists 32 pro-Rino youTube videos to watch. This is proof that Romney is no conservative, nor is he a righteous LDS member. (See 32 videos listed at: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEC087120FC7B1DA3&feature=plcp
video #1: ROMNEY PROMISES TO BE PRO-CHOICE!
video #2: ROMNEY PROMISES TO BE PRO-CHOICE!
video #3: Gays should be able to be part of the Boy Scouts? ROMNEY PROMISES TO BE PRO-GAY!
video #5: Romney flip-flops and then flip-flops back!
video #6: Romney didn't like the "Contract with America!"
video #10: Romney on his baby-frankenstein-love-child: "ROMNEYCARE..".
video #16: Romney lies about his father marching with Martin Luther King
video #18: Romney supports gun control.
video #20; Romney flip-flops on immigration.
video #23: Romney flip-flops on Recovery Act
video #27: Romney promotes pro-gay-marriage
video #31: Romney pro-Planned Parenthood
video #00: Romney speaks about Obama and Natural Born Citizen clause in Constitution...
NOT! (no such video exists or WILL EVER EXISTS!) (Romney doesn't care a rats-patoot about the Constitution).
What is so amusing...most Republicans are mirror images of Romney...and will VOTE for him!
Edward C. Noonan
President 2012
Saturday, January 28, 2012
Thursday, January 26, 2012
OBAMA ELIGIBILITY COURT CASE…BLOW BY BLOW
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution was one of the VERY FEW lame stream media lapdogs that gave mention of Obama losing his first court case today. Lose a case? Yes! He lost by not showing up. You can read their lack-luster news account at:
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-government/no-obama-in-court-1318908.html
Be sure to watch the video of the court proceedings at their website.
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A better account of today's events can be found at: http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/?p=4138
OBAMA ELIGIBILITY COURT CASE…BLOW BY BLOW
By Craig Andresen on January 26, 2012 at 9:25 am
Given the testimony from today’s court case in Georgia, Obama has a lot of explaining to do. His attorney, Jablonski, was a NO SHOW as of course, was Obama.
The following is a nutshell account of the proceedings.
Promptly at 9am EST, all attorneys involved in the Obama Georgia eligibility case were called to the Judge’s chambers. This was indeed a very interesting beginning to this long awaited and important case.
The case revolved around the Natural Born clause of the Constitution and whether or not Obama qualifies under it to serve. More to the point, if found ineligible, Obama’s name would not appear on the 2012 ballot in Georgia.
With the small courtroom crowded, several in attendance could be seen fanning themselves with pamphlets as they waited for the return of the attorneys and the appearance of the judge.
Obama himself, who had been subpoenaed to appear, of course was nowhere near Georgia. Instead, Obama was on a campaign swing appearing in Las Vegas and in Colorado ignoring the court in Georgia.
Over the last several weeks, Obama’s attorney, Michael Jablonski, had attempted several tactics to keep this case from moving forward. He first tried to have it dismissed, then argued that it was irrelevant to Obama. After that, Jablonski argued that a state could not, under the law, determine who would or would not be on a ballot and later, that Obama was simply too busy with the duties of office to appear.
After all these arguments were dispatched by the Georgia Court, Jablonski, in desperation, wrote to the Georgia Secretary of State attempting to place Obama above the law and declared that the case was not to be heard and neither he nor his client would participate.
Secretary of State, Brian Kemp, fired back a letter hours later telling Jablonski he was free to abandon the case and not participate but that he would do so at his and his clients peril.
Game on.
5 minutes.
10 minutes.
15 minutes with the attorneys in the judge’s chambers.
20 minutes.
It appears Jablonski is not in attendance as the attorneys return, all go to the plaintiff table 24 minutes after meeting in the judge’s chambers.
Has Obama’s attorney made good on his stated threat not to participate? Is he directly ignoring the court’s subpoena? Is he placing Obama above the law? It seems so. Were you or I subpoenaed to appear in court, would we or our attorney be allowed such action or, non action?
Certainly not.
Court is called to order.
Obama’s birth certificate is entered into evidence.
Obama’s father’s place of birth, Kenya East Africa is entered into evidence.
Pages 214 and 215 from Obama’s book, “Dreams from My Father” entered into evidence. Highlighted. This is where Obama indicates that, in 1966 or 1967 that his father’s history is mentioned. It states that his father’s passport had been revoked and he was unable to leave Kenya.
Immigration Services documents entered into evidence regarding Obama Sr.
June 27th, 1962, is the date on those documents. Obama’s father’s status shown as a non citizen of the United States. Documents were gotten through the Freedom of Information Act.
Testimony regarding the definition of Natural Born Citizen is given citing Minor vs Happersett opinion from a Supreme Court written opinion from 1875. The attorney points out the difference between “citizen” and “Natural Born Citizen” using charts and copies of the Minor vs Happersett opinion.
It is also pointed out that the 14th Amendment does not alter the definition or supersede the meaning of Natural Born. It is pointed out that lower court rulings do not conflict with the Supreme Court opinion nor do they over rule the Supreme Court Minor vs Happersett opinion.
The point is, to be a natural born citizen, one must have 2 parents who, at the time of the birth in question, be citizens of the United States. As Obama’s father was not a citizen, the argument is that Obama, constitutionally, is ineligible to serve as President.
Judge notes that as Obama nor his attorney is present, action will be taken accordingly.
Carl Swinson takes the stand.
Testimony is presented that the SOS has agreed to hear this case, laws applicable, and that the DNC of Georgia will be on the ballot and the challenge to it by Swinson.
2nd witness, a Mr. Powell, takes the stand and presents testimony regarding documents of challenge to Obama’s appearance on the Georgia ballot and his candidacy.
Court records of Obama’s mother and father entered into evidence.
Official certificate of nomination of Obama entered into evidence.
RNC certificate of nomination entered into evidence.
DNC language does NOT include language stating Obama is Qualified while the RNC document DOES. This shows a direct difference trying to establish that the DNC MAY possibly have known that Obama was not qualified.
Jablonski letter to Kemp yesterday entered into evidence showing their desire that these proceedings not take place and that they would not participate.
Dreams From My Father entered.
Mr. Allen from Tuscon AZ sworn in.
Disc received from Immigration and Naturalization Service entered into evidence. This disc contains information regarding the status of Obama’s father received through the Freedom of Information Act.
This information states clearly that Obama’s father was NEVER a U.S. Citizen.
At this point, the judge takes a recess.
The judge returns.
David Farrar takes the stand.
Evidence showing Obama’s book of records listing his nationality as Indoneasan. Deemed not relevant by the judge.
Orly Taitz calls 2nd witness. Mr. Strunk.
Enters into evidence a portion of letter received from attorney showing a renewal form from Obama’s mother for her passport listing Obama’s last name something other than Obama.
State Licensed PI takes the stand.
She was hired to look into Obama’s background and found a Social Security number for him from 1977. Professional opinion given that this number was fraudulent. The number used or attached to Obama in 1977, shows that the true owner of the number was born in the 1890. This shows that the number was originally assigned to someone else who was indeed born in 1890 and should never have been used by Obama.
Same SS number came up with addresses in IL, D.C. and MA.
Next witness takes the stand.
This witness is an expert in information technology and photo shop. He testifies that the birth certificate Obama provided to the public is layered, multiple layered. This, he testifies, indicates that different parts of the certificate have been lifted from more than one original document.
Linda Jordan takes the stand.
Document entered regarding SS number assigned to Obama. SS number is not verified under E Verify. It comes back as suspected fraudulent. This is the system by which the Government verifies ones citizenship.
Next witness.
Mr. Vogt.
Expert in document imaging and scanners for 18 years.
Mr. Vogt testifies that the birth certificate, posted online by Obama, is suspicious. States white lines around all the type face is caused by “unsharp mask” in Photoshop. Testifies that any document showing this, is considered to be a fraud.
States this is a product of layering.
Mr. Vogt testifies that a straight scan of an original document would not show such layering.
Also testifies that the date stamps shown on Obama documents should not be in exact same place on various documents as they are hand stamped. Obama’s documents are all even, straight and exactly the same indicating they were NOT hand stamped by layered into the document by computer.
Next witness, Mr. Sampson a former police officer and former immigration officer specializing in immigration fraud.
Ran Obama’s SS number through database and found that the number was issued to Obama in 1977 in the state of Connecticut . Obama never resided in that state. At the time of issue, Obama was living in Hawaii.
Serial number on birth certificate is out of sequence with others issued at that hospital. Also certification is different than others and different than twins born 24 hours ahead of Obama.
Mr. Sampson also states that portion of documents regarding Mr. Sotoroe, who adopted Obama have been redacted which is highly unusual with regards to immigration records.
Suggests all records from Social Security, Immigration, Hawaii birth records be made available to see if there are criminal charges to be filed or not. Without them, nothing can be ruled out.
Mr. Sampson indicates if Obama is shown not to be a citizen, he should be arrested and deported and until all records are released nobody can know for sure if he is or is not a U.S. Citizen.
Taitz shows records for Barry Sotoro aka Barack Obama, showing he resides in Hawaii and in Indonesia at the same time.
Taitz takes the stand herself.
Testifies that records indicate Obama records have been altered and he is hiding his identity and citizenship.
Taitz leave the stand to make her closing arguments.
Taitz states that Obama should be found, because of the evidence presented, ineligible to serve as President.
And with that, the judge closes the hearing.
What can we take away from this?
It’s interesting.
Now, all of this has finally been entered OFFICIALLY into court records.
One huge question is now more than ever before, unanswered.
WHO THE HELL IS THIS GUY?
Without his attorney present, Obama’s identity, his Social Security number, his citizenship status, and his past are all OFFICIALLY in question.
One thing to which there seems no doubt. He does NOT qualify, under the definition of Natural Born Citizen” provided by SCOTUS opinions, to be eligible to serve as President.
What will the judge decide? That is yet to be known, but it seems nearly impossible to believe, without counter testimony or evidence, because Obama and his attorney chose not to participate, that Obama will be allowed on the Georgia ballot.
It also opens the door for such cases pending or to be brought in other states as well.
Obama is in it deep and the DNC has some…a LOT…of explaining to do unless they start looking for a new candidate for 2012.
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-government/no-obama-in-court-1318908.html
Be sure to watch the video of the court proceedings at their website.
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A better account of today's events can be found at: http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/?p=4138
OBAMA ELIGIBILITY COURT CASE…BLOW BY BLOW
By Craig Andresen on January 26, 2012 at 9:25 am
Given the testimony from today’s court case in Georgia, Obama has a lot of explaining to do. His attorney, Jablonski, was a NO SHOW as of course, was Obama.
The following is a nutshell account of the proceedings.
Promptly at 9am EST, all attorneys involved in the Obama Georgia eligibility case were called to the Judge’s chambers. This was indeed a very interesting beginning to this long awaited and important case.
The case revolved around the Natural Born clause of the Constitution and whether or not Obama qualifies under it to serve. More to the point, if found ineligible, Obama’s name would not appear on the 2012 ballot in Georgia.
With the small courtroom crowded, several in attendance could be seen fanning themselves with pamphlets as they waited for the return of the attorneys and the appearance of the judge.
Obama himself, who had been subpoenaed to appear, of course was nowhere near Georgia. Instead, Obama was on a campaign swing appearing in Las Vegas and in Colorado ignoring the court in Georgia.
Over the last several weeks, Obama’s attorney, Michael Jablonski, had attempted several tactics to keep this case from moving forward. He first tried to have it dismissed, then argued that it was irrelevant to Obama. After that, Jablonski argued that a state could not, under the law, determine who would or would not be on a ballot and later, that Obama was simply too busy with the duties of office to appear.
After all these arguments were dispatched by the Georgia Court, Jablonski, in desperation, wrote to the Georgia Secretary of State attempting to place Obama above the law and declared that the case was not to be heard and neither he nor his client would participate.
Secretary of State, Brian Kemp, fired back a letter hours later telling Jablonski he was free to abandon the case and not participate but that he would do so at his and his clients peril.
Game on.
5 minutes.
10 minutes.
15 minutes with the attorneys in the judge’s chambers.
20 minutes.
It appears Jablonski is not in attendance as the attorneys return, all go to the plaintiff table 24 minutes after meeting in the judge’s chambers.
Has Obama’s attorney made good on his stated threat not to participate? Is he directly ignoring the court’s subpoena? Is he placing Obama above the law? It seems so. Were you or I subpoenaed to appear in court, would we or our attorney be allowed such action or, non action?
Certainly not.
Court is called to order.
Obama’s birth certificate is entered into evidence.
Obama’s father’s place of birth, Kenya East Africa is entered into evidence.
Pages 214 and 215 from Obama’s book, “Dreams from My Father” entered into evidence. Highlighted. This is where Obama indicates that, in 1966 or 1967 that his father’s history is mentioned. It states that his father’s passport had been revoked and he was unable to leave Kenya.
Immigration Services documents entered into evidence regarding Obama Sr.
June 27th, 1962, is the date on those documents. Obama’s father’s status shown as a non citizen of the United States. Documents were gotten through the Freedom of Information Act.
Testimony regarding the definition of Natural Born Citizen is given citing Minor vs Happersett opinion from a Supreme Court written opinion from 1875. The attorney points out the difference between “citizen” and “Natural Born Citizen” using charts and copies of the Minor vs Happersett opinion.
It is also pointed out that the 14th Amendment does not alter the definition or supersede the meaning of Natural Born. It is pointed out that lower court rulings do not conflict with the Supreme Court opinion nor do they over rule the Supreme Court Minor vs Happersett opinion.
The point is, to be a natural born citizen, one must have 2 parents who, at the time of the birth in question, be citizens of the United States. As Obama’s father was not a citizen, the argument is that Obama, constitutionally, is ineligible to serve as President.
Judge notes that as Obama nor his attorney is present, action will be taken accordingly.
Carl Swinson takes the stand.
Testimony is presented that the SOS has agreed to hear this case, laws applicable, and that the DNC of Georgia will be on the ballot and the challenge to it by Swinson.
2nd witness, a Mr. Powell, takes the stand and presents testimony regarding documents of challenge to Obama’s appearance on the Georgia ballot and his candidacy.
Court records of Obama’s mother and father entered into evidence.
Official certificate of nomination of Obama entered into evidence.
RNC certificate of nomination entered into evidence.
DNC language does NOT include language stating Obama is Qualified while the RNC document DOES. This shows a direct difference trying to establish that the DNC MAY possibly have known that Obama was not qualified.
Jablonski letter to Kemp yesterday entered into evidence showing their desire that these proceedings not take place and that they would not participate.
Dreams From My Father entered.
Mr. Allen from Tuscon AZ sworn in.
Disc received from Immigration and Naturalization Service entered into evidence. This disc contains information regarding the status of Obama’s father received through the Freedom of Information Act.
This information states clearly that Obama’s father was NEVER a U.S. Citizen.
At this point, the judge takes a recess.
The judge returns.
David Farrar takes the stand.
Evidence showing Obama’s book of records listing his nationality as Indoneasan. Deemed not relevant by the judge.
Orly Taitz calls 2nd witness. Mr. Strunk.
Enters into evidence a portion of letter received from attorney showing a renewal form from Obama’s mother for her passport listing Obama’s last name something other than Obama.
State Licensed PI takes the stand.
She was hired to look into Obama’s background and found a Social Security number for him from 1977. Professional opinion given that this number was fraudulent. The number used or attached to Obama in 1977, shows that the true owner of the number was born in the 1890. This shows that the number was originally assigned to someone else who was indeed born in 1890 and should never have been used by Obama.
Same SS number came up with addresses in IL, D.C. and MA.
Next witness takes the stand.
This witness is an expert in information technology and photo shop. He testifies that the birth certificate Obama provided to the public is layered, multiple layered. This, he testifies, indicates that different parts of the certificate have been lifted from more than one original document.
Linda Jordan takes the stand.
Document entered regarding SS number assigned to Obama. SS number is not verified under E Verify. It comes back as suspected fraudulent. This is the system by which the Government verifies ones citizenship.
Next witness.
Mr. Vogt.
Expert in document imaging and scanners for 18 years.
Mr. Vogt testifies that the birth certificate, posted online by Obama, is suspicious. States white lines around all the type face is caused by “unsharp mask” in Photoshop. Testifies that any document showing this, is considered to be a fraud.
States this is a product of layering.
Mr. Vogt testifies that a straight scan of an original document would not show such layering.
Also testifies that the date stamps shown on Obama documents should not be in exact same place on various documents as they are hand stamped. Obama’s documents are all even, straight and exactly the same indicating they were NOT hand stamped by layered into the document by computer.
Next witness, Mr. Sampson a former police officer and former immigration officer specializing in immigration fraud.
Ran Obama’s SS number through database and found that the number was issued to Obama in 1977 in the state of Connecticut . Obama never resided in that state. At the time of issue, Obama was living in Hawaii.
Serial number on birth certificate is out of sequence with others issued at that hospital. Also certification is different than others and different than twins born 24 hours ahead of Obama.
Mr. Sampson also states that portion of documents regarding Mr. Sotoroe, who adopted Obama have been redacted which is highly unusual with regards to immigration records.
Suggests all records from Social Security, Immigration, Hawaii birth records be made available to see if there are criminal charges to be filed or not. Without them, nothing can be ruled out.
Mr. Sampson indicates if Obama is shown not to be a citizen, he should be arrested and deported and until all records are released nobody can know for sure if he is or is not a U.S. Citizen.
Taitz shows records for Barry Sotoro aka Barack Obama, showing he resides in Hawaii and in Indonesia at the same time.
Taitz takes the stand herself.
Testifies that records indicate Obama records have been altered and he is hiding his identity and citizenship.
Taitz leave the stand to make her closing arguments.
Taitz states that Obama should be found, because of the evidence presented, ineligible to serve as President.
And with that, the judge closes the hearing.
What can we take away from this?
It’s interesting.
Now, all of this has finally been entered OFFICIALLY into court records.
One huge question is now more than ever before, unanswered.
WHO THE HELL IS THIS GUY?
Without his attorney present, Obama’s identity, his Social Security number, his citizenship status, and his past are all OFFICIALLY in question.
One thing to which there seems no doubt. He does NOT qualify, under the definition of Natural Born Citizen” provided by SCOTUS opinions, to be eligible to serve as President.
What will the judge decide? That is yet to be known, but it seems nearly impossible to believe, without counter testimony or evidence, because Obama and his attorney chose not to participate, that Obama will be allowed on the Georgia ballot.
It also opens the door for such cases pending or to be brought in other states as well.
Obama is in it deep and the DNC has some…a LOT…of explaining to do unless they start looking for a new candidate for 2012.
Friday, January 20, 2012
Precedent Case For Restraint of Fund Raising for Obama: Writ of Mandate
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Breaking News: January 19, 2012 ~ Precedent Case For Restraint of Fund Raising for Obama: Writ of Mandate ~ Served on the California Secretary of State.
Sacramento - A legal complaint was served on Obama for America (California) and the California Secretary of State Debra Bowen late Tuesday to keep British-born Barack Obama off the ballot for the Office of the President, because he does not meet the Constitutional requirement of being a U.S. Natural Born citizen according to the Supreme Court precedent Minor v. Happersett. The legal action was filed Jan. 6 in Sacramento Superior Court by a group of 7 ad hoc registered voters including an American Independent Party candidate for President.
Several of the petitioners tried seeking resolution against Obama after the 2008 presidential election, but they were told by the California courts that it was too late to make challenges to Obama's legitimacy, and that they did not have "standing".
The Writ requests a temporary restraining order of Respondent Debra Bowen (SOS) to bar Obama on the Democratic Party ballot in the primary and/or General Election until the matter of eligibility and ballot access for Respondent Obama is heard. The Writ also requested a temporary restraining order against Respondent Obama and or his agents associated with the Obama for America California from further fundraising in California until further notice by the court. A final demand was for a permanent Injunction against Respondent Obama and Respondent SOS as to Respondent Obama’s ineligibility, barring him from ballot access.
Seven California voters have drawn up the Writ of Mandate over the absence of Constitutional authority and documentation that Barack Obama is eligible to occupy the Oval Office. No dual nationality citizen has ever been declared a U.S. NATURAL BORN Citizen. The Supreme Court ruled in Minor v. Happersett that a person must be born within the jurisdiction of the U.S. to two U.S. citizen parents and it has been never been overturned. The U.S. Congress in 2009 usurped the U.S. Constitution when they confirmed Mr. Obama for the Office of the Presidency. They attempted to revise the U.S. Constitution without an Amendment by confirming Obama as POTUS.
One of the seven California Petitioners is Edward C. Noonan of Olivehurst, Yuba County, CA. He is currently a 2012 Presidential candidate for the American Independent Party.
The other six California petitioners are Pamela Barnett (Director of ObamaBallotChallenge.com), Sharon Chickering, George Miller, Tony Dolz, Neil Turner, and Gary Wilmott. All seven petitioners are affirmed as Ad Hoc registered voters of California, each self represented without an attorney.
The cause of the petition is that Mr. Barack Obama does not qualify for the Office of President of the United States because both of his parents were not U.S. Citizens at the time of Obama’s birth. Article II of the US Constitution states that only Natural Born Citizens qualify for the Office of President. Barack Obama’s father was a foreign national of Kenya. This disqualifies Mr. Obama to be Commander in Chief as well as POTUS.
Mr. Noonan said, “Mr. Obama cannot be a natural born citizen.” “It doesn’t matter whether or not he was born in Hawaii, it is a fact that his father was not a citizen of the U.S. at the time of Obama’s birth which disqualifies Mr. Obama from holding the office,” he said.
“I have a right as a Petitioner to have standing and relief with the California Secretary of State’s Elections Division because I am candidate for 2012 Presidential Campaign,” he said. “The California Elections Code Section §13314 guarantees me the right to challenge the qualifications of Mr. Obama.”
He pointed out that Election Code §13314 states the any challenge needs to be before the ballots are printed.
(a)(1) An elector may seek a writ of mandate alleging that an error or omission has occurred, or is about to occur, in the placing of a name on, or in the printing of, a ballot, sample ballot, voter pamphlet, or other official matter, or that any neglect of duty has occurred, or is about to occur.
He also said, “We are attempting to correct the errors, omissions, or other neglects of the SOS that are in violation of the Election Code and the US Constitution.”
Mr. Noonan said, “If Mr. Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen as the US Constitution demands of all candidates for US President to be, then this violates the US Constitution.”
Neil Turner, one of the seven petitioners stated, “They, the Congress, Supreme Court and the White House, in fact (apparently) conspired to revise the U.S. Constitution without an Amendment, by eliminating (attempting to eliminate) the requirement that a President be a NATURAL BORN Citizen.”
Pamela Barnett, Retired Captain, also one of the seven petitioners said, "The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals told me that I did not have standing to challenge Obama regarding his eligibility after the election in 2008, so I am now part of a legal action to require the California court to rule on Obama's eligibility for the first time,"
"We have been trying to have Obama's eligibility heard in court on the merits for 3 years, but citizens were denied standing after the election in 2008. California has a statute that gives us standing before the ballots are printed. We hope that our judge will honor the Constitution and California law and have a fair hearing on the merits and rule on existing Natural Born law," said Barnett.
“This is about the rule of law. No man should be above it. We need to honor the Constitution," Barnett said.
Barnett was one of the original litigants in the 2009 legal action Barnett, Alan Keyes v. Obama.
This new, current challenge is only one of the dozens that Mr. Obama is facing across the country regarding his failure to meet the Constitutional requirements for the Office of President of the United States.
For more info contact:
Edward Noonan
530-845-5186
And visit these websites.
www.obamaballotchallenge.com
http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html
Go here to view the complaint. http://www.scribd.com/doc/78739896/California-Writ-to-Keep-Obama-Off-Ballot-Stop-Fund-Raising
Breaking News: January 19, 2012 ~ Precedent Case For Restraint of Fund Raising for Obama: Writ of Mandate ~ Served on the California Secretary of State.
Sacramento - A legal complaint was served on Obama for America (California) and the California Secretary of State Debra Bowen late Tuesday to keep British-born Barack Obama off the ballot for the Office of the President, because he does not meet the Constitutional requirement of being a U.S. Natural Born citizen according to the Supreme Court precedent Minor v. Happersett. The legal action was filed Jan. 6 in Sacramento Superior Court by a group of 7 ad hoc registered voters including an American Independent Party candidate for President.
Several of the petitioners tried seeking resolution against Obama after the 2008 presidential election, but they were told by the California courts that it was too late to make challenges to Obama's legitimacy, and that they did not have "standing".
The Writ requests a temporary restraining order of Respondent Debra Bowen (SOS) to bar Obama on the Democratic Party ballot in the primary and/or General Election until the matter of eligibility and ballot access for Respondent Obama is heard. The Writ also requested a temporary restraining order against Respondent Obama and or his agents associated with the Obama for America California from further fundraising in California until further notice by the court. A final demand was for a permanent Injunction against Respondent Obama and Respondent SOS as to Respondent Obama’s ineligibility, barring him from ballot access.
Seven California voters have drawn up the Writ of Mandate over the absence of Constitutional authority and documentation that Barack Obama is eligible to occupy the Oval Office. No dual nationality citizen has ever been declared a U.S. NATURAL BORN Citizen. The Supreme Court ruled in Minor v. Happersett that a person must be born within the jurisdiction of the U.S. to two U.S. citizen parents and it has been never been overturned. The U.S. Congress in 2009 usurped the U.S. Constitution when they confirmed Mr. Obama for the Office of the Presidency. They attempted to revise the U.S. Constitution without an Amendment by confirming Obama as POTUS.
One of the seven California Petitioners is Edward C. Noonan of Olivehurst, Yuba County, CA. He is currently a 2012 Presidential candidate for the American Independent Party.
The other six California petitioners are Pamela Barnett (Director of ObamaBallotChallenge.com), Sharon Chickering, George Miller, Tony Dolz, Neil Turner, and Gary Wilmott. All seven petitioners are affirmed as Ad Hoc registered voters of California, each self represented without an attorney.
The cause of the petition is that Mr. Barack Obama does not qualify for the Office of President of the United States because both of his parents were not U.S. Citizens at the time of Obama’s birth. Article II of the US Constitution states that only Natural Born Citizens qualify for the Office of President. Barack Obama’s father was a foreign national of Kenya. This disqualifies Mr. Obama to be Commander in Chief as well as POTUS.
Mr. Noonan said, “Mr. Obama cannot be a natural born citizen.” “It doesn’t matter whether or not he was born in Hawaii, it is a fact that his father was not a citizen of the U.S. at the time of Obama’s birth which disqualifies Mr. Obama from holding the office,” he said.
“I have a right as a Petitioner to have standing and relief with the California Secretary of State’s Elections Division because I am candidate for 2012 Presidential Campaign,” he said. “The California Elections Code Section §13314 guarantees me the right to challenge the qualifications of Mr. Obama.”
He pointed out that Election Code §13314 states the any challenge needs to be before the ballots are printed.
(a)(1) An elector may seek a writ of mandate alleging that an error or omission has occurred, or is about to occur, in the placing of a name on, or in the printing of, a ballot, sample ballot, voter pamphlet, or other official matter, or that any neglect of duty has occurred, or is about to occur.
He also said, “We are attempting to correct the errors, omissions, or other neglects of the SOS that are in violation of the Election Code and the US Constitution.”
Mr. Noonan said, “If Mr. Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen as the US Constitution demands of all candidates for US President to be, then this violates the US Constitution.”
Neil Turner, one of the seven petitioners stated, “They, the Congress, Supreme Court and the White House, in fact (apparently) conspired to revise the U.S. Constitution without an Amendment, by eliminating (attempting to eliminate) the requirement that a President be a NATURAL BORN Citizen.”
Pamela Barnett, Retired Captain, also one of the seven petitioners said, "The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals told me that I did not have standing to challenge Obama regarding his eligibility after the election in 2008, so I am now part of a legal action to require the California court to rule on Obama's eligibility for the first time,"
"We have been trying to have Obama's eligibility heard in court on the merits for 3 years, but citizens were denied standing after the election in 2008. California has a statute that gives us standing before the ballots are printed. We hope that our judge will honor the Constitution and California law and have a fair hearing on the merits and rule on existing Natural Born law," said Barnett.
“This is about the rule of law. No man should be above it. We need to honor the Constitution," Barnett said.
Barnett was one of the original litigants in the 2009 legal action Barnett, Alan Keyes v. Obama.
This new, current challenge is only one of the dozens that Mr. Obama is facing across the country regarding his failure to meet the Constitutional requirements for the Office of President of the United States.
For more info contact:
Edward Noonan
530-845-5186
And visit these websites.
www.obamaballotchallenge.com
http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html
Go here to view the complaint. http://www.scribd.com/doc/78739896/California-Writ-to-Keep-Obama-Off-Ballot-Stop-Fund-Raising
Thursday, January 19, 2012
Precedent Case For Restraint of Fund Raising for Obama: Writ of Mandate
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Breaking News: January 19, 2012 ~ Precedent Case For Restraint of Fund Raising for Obama: Writ of Mandate ~ Served on the California Secretary of State.
Sacramento - A legal complaint was served on Obama for America (California) and the California Secretary of State Debra Bowen late Tuesday to keep British-born Barack Obama off the ballot for the Office of the President, because he does not meet the Constitutional requirement of being a U.S. Natural Born citizen according to the Supreme Court precedent Minor v. Happersett. The legal action was filed Jan. 6 in Sacramento Superior Court by a group of 7 ad hoc registered voters including an American Independent Party candidate for President.
Several of the petitioners tried seeking resolution against Obama after the 2008 presidential election, but they were told by the California courts that it was too late to make challenges to Obama's legitimacy, and that they did not have "standing".
The Writ requests a temporary restraining order of Respondent Debra Bowen (SOS) to bar Obama on the Democratic Party ballot in the primary and/or General Election until the matter of eligibility and ballot access for Respondent Obama is heard. The Writ also requested a temporary restraining order against Respondent Obama and or his agents associated with the Obama for America California from further fundraising in California until further notice by the court. A final demand was for a permanent Injunction against Respondent Obama and Respondent SOS as to Respondent Obama’s ineligibility, barring him from ballot access.
Seven California voters have drawn up the Writ of Mandate over the absence of Constitutional authority and documentation that Barack Obama is eligible to occupy the Oval Office. No dual nationality citizen has ever been declared a U.S. NATURAL BORN Citizen. The Supreme Court ruled in Minor v. Happersett that a person must be born within the jurisdiction of the U.S. to two U.S. citizen parents and it has been never been overturned. The U.S. Congress in 2009 usurped the U.S. Constitution when they confirmed Mr. Obama for the Office of the Presidency. They attempted to revise the U.S. Constitution without an Amendment by confirming Obama as POTUS.
One of the seven California Petitioners is Edward C. Noonan of Olivehurst, Yuba County, CA. He is currently a 2012 Presidential candidate for the American Independent Party.
The other six California petitioners are Pamela Barnett (Director of ObamaBallotChallenge.com), Sharon Chickering, George Miller, Tony Dolz, Neil Turner, and Gary Wilmott. All seven petitioners are affirmed as Ad Hoc registered voters of California, each self represented without an attorney.
The cause of the petition is that Mr. Barack Obama does not qualify for the Office of President of the United States because both of his parents were not U.S. Citizens at the time of Obama’s birth. Article II of the US Constitution states that only Natural Born Citizens qualify for the Office of President. Barack Obama’s father was a foreign national of Kenya. This disqualifies Mr. Obama to be Commander in Chief as well as POTUS.
Mr. Noonan said, “Mr. Obama cannot be a natural born citizen.” “It doesn’t matter whether or not he was born in Hawaii, it is a fact that his father was not a citizen of the U.S. at the time of Obama’s birth which disqualifies Mr. Obama from holding the office,” he said.
“I have a right as a Petitioner to have standing and relief with the California Secretary of State’s Elections Division because I am candidate for 2012 Presidential Campaign,” he said. “The California Elections Code Section §13314 guarantees me the right to challenge the qualifications of Mr. Obama.”
He pointed out that Election Code §13314 states the any challenge needs to be before the ballots are printed.
(a)(1) An elector may seek a writ of mandate alleging that an error or omission has occurred, or is about to occur, in the placing of a name on, or in the printing of, a ballot, sample ballot, voter pamphlet, or other official matter, or that any neglect of duty has occurred, or is about to occur.
He also said, “We are attempting to correct the errors, omissions, or other neglects of the SOS that are in violation of the Election Code and the US Constitution.”
Mr. Noonan said, “If Mr. Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen as the US Constitution demands of all candidates for US President to be, then this violates the US Constitution.”
Neil Turner, one of the seven petitioners stated, “They, the Congress, Supreme Court and the White House, in fact (apparently) conspired to revise the U.S. Constitution without an Amendment, by eliminating (attempting to eliminate) the requirement that a President be a NATURAL BORN Citizen.”
Pamela Barnett, Retired Captain, also one of the seven petitioners said, "The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals told me that I did not have standing to challenge Obama regarding his eligibility after the election in 2008, so I am now part of a legal action to require the California court to rule on Obama's eligibility for the first time,"
"We have been trying to have Obama's eligibility heard in court on the merits for 3 years, but citizens were denied standing after the election in 2008. California has a statute that gives us standing before the ballots are printed. We hope that our judge will honor the Constitution and California law and have a fair hearing on the merits and rule on existing Natural Born law," said Barnett.
“This is about the rule of law. No man should be above it. We need to honor the Constitution," Barnett said.
Barnett was one of the original litigants in the 2009 legal action Barnett, Alan Keyes v. Obama.
This new, current challenge is only one of the dozens that Mr. Obama is facing across the country regarding his failure to meet the Constitutional requirements for the Office of President of the United States.
For more info contact:
Edward Noonan
530-845-5186
And visit these websites.
www.obamaballotchallenge.com
http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html
Go here to view the complaint. http://www.scribd.com/doc/78739896/California-Writ-to-Keep-Obama-Off-Ballot-Stop-Fund-Raising
Breaking News: January 19, 2012 ~ Precedent Case For Restraint of Fund Raising for Obama: Writ of Mandate ~ Served on the California Secretary of State.
Sacramento - A legal complaint was served on Obama for America (California) and the California Secretary of State Debra Bowen late Tuesday to keep British-born Barack Obama off the ballot for the Office of the President, because he does not meet the Constitutional requirement of being a U.S. Natural Born citizen according to the Supreme Court precedent Minor v. Happersett. The legal action was filed Jan. 6 in Sacramento Superior Court by a group of 7 ad hoc registered voters including an American Independent Party candidate for President.
Several of the petitioners tried seeking resolution against Obama after the 2008 presidential election, but they were told by the California courts that it was too late to make challenges to Obama's legitimacy, and that they did not have "standing".
The Writ requests a temporary restraining order of Respondent Debra Bowen (SOS) to bar Obama on the Democratic Party ballot in the primary and/or General Election until the matter of eligibility and ballot access for Respondent Obama is heard. The Writ also requested a temporary restraining order against Respondent Obama and or his agents associated with the Obama for America California from further fundraising in California until further notice by the court. A final demand was for a permanent Injunction against Respondent Obama and Respondent SOS as to Respondent Obama’s ineligibility, barring him from ballot access.
Seven California voters have drawn up the Writ of Mandate over the absence of Constitutional authority and documentation that Barack Obama is eligible to occupy the Oval Office. No dual nationality citizen has ever been declared a U.S. NATURAL BORN Citizen. The Supreme Court ruled in Minor v. Happersett that a person must be born within the jurisdiction of the U.S. to two U.S. citizen parents and it has been never been overturned. The U.S. Congress in 2009 usurped the U.S. Constitution when they confirmed Mr. Obama for the Office of the Presidency. They attempted to revise the U.S. Constitution without an Amendment by confirming Obama as POTUS.
One of the seven California Petitioners is Edward C. Noonan of Olivehurst, Yuba County, CA. He is currently a 2012 Presidential candidate for the American Independent Party.
The other six California petitioners are Pamela Barnett (Director of ObamaBallotChallenge.com), Sharon Chickering, George Miller, Tony Dolz, Neil Turner, and Gary Wilmott. All seven petitioners are affirmed as Ad Hoc registered voters of California, each self represented without an attorney.
The cause of the petition is that Mr. Barack Obama does not qualify for the Office of President of the United States because both of his parents were not U.S. Citizens at the time of Obama’s birth. Article II of the US Constitution states that only Natural Born Citizens qualify for the Office of President. Barack Obama’s father was a foreign national of Kenya. This disqualifies Mr. Obama to be Commander in Chief as well as POTUS.
Mr. Noonan said, “Mr. Obama cannot be a natural born citizen.” “It doesn’t matter whether or not he was born in Hawaii, it is a fact that his father was not a citizen of the U.S. at the time of Obama’s birth which disqualifies Mr. Obama from holding the office,” he said.
“I have a right as a Petitioner to have standing and relief with the California Secretary of State’s Elections Division because I am candidate for 2012 Presidential Campaign,” he said. “The California Elections Code Section §13314 guarantees me the right to challenge the qualifications of Mr. Obama.”
He pointed out that Election Code §13314 states the any challenge needs to be before the ballots are printed.
(a)(1) An elector may seek a writ of mandate alleging that an error or omission has occurred, or is about to occur, in the placing of a name on, or in the printing of, a ballot, sample ballot, voter pamphlet, or other official matter, or that any neglect of duty has occurred, or is about to occur.
He also said, “We are attempting to correct the errors, omissions, or other neglects of the SOS that are in violation of the Election Code and the US Constitution.”
Mr. Noonan said, “If Mr. Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen as the US Constitution demands of all candidates for US President to be, then this violates the US Constitution.”
Neil Turner, one of the seven petitioners stated, “They, the Congress, Supreme Court and the White House, in fact (apparently) conspired to revise the U.S. Constitution without an Amendment, by eliminating (attempting to eliminate) the requirement that a President be a NATURAL BORN Citizen.”
Pamela Barnett, Retired Captain, also one of the seven petitioners said, "The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals told me that I did not have standing to challenge Obama regarding his eligibility after the election in 2008, so I am now part of a legal action to require the California court to rule on Obama's eligibility for the first time,"
"We have been trying to have Obama's eligibility heard in court on the merits for 3 years, but citizens were denied standing after the election in 2008. California has a statute that gives us standing before the ballots are printed. We hope that our judge will honor the Constitution and California law and have a fair hearing on the merits and rule on existing Natural Born law," said Barnett.
“This is about the rule of law. No man should be above it. We need to honor the Constitution," Barnett said.
Barnett was one of the original litigants in the 2009 legal action Barnett, Alan Keyes v. Obama.
This new, current challenge is only one of the dozens that Mr. Obama is facing across the country regarding his failure to meet the Constitutional requirements for the Office of President of the United States.
For more info contact:
Edward Noonan
530-845-5186
And visit these websites.
www.obamaballotchallenge.com
http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html
Go here to view the complaint. http://www.scribd.com/doc/78739896/California-Writ-to-Keep-Obama-Off-Ballot-Stop-Fund-Raising
Sunday, January 15, 2012
War with Iran is near...
from: Edward C. Noonan ednoonan7@gmail.com
To: Rich
date: Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:08 AM
subject: Re: McDonough on WCBM tonight......
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Rich wrote:
near the close of his show McDonough(MD. politician) said that he had a strong feeling that things were about to happen in the Middle East.. he said that our Navy has arrived and a possible war with Iran was close!! he also said that it will affect our country and destroy our economy(too late) when oil jumps to 10 bucks a barrel!!
Sure sounds to me like they are setting the stage for Martial Law...........
Rich,
MY REPLY
FROM THE DESK OF EDWARD C. NOONAN
I would heartily agree with McDonough's assessment of the looming war with Iran. And yes, the war with Iran has been rumored for several years...since George Bush Sr at least (if not prior).
And the financial crisis to our country will be "the last straw" in our doomed economy. The $15 Trillion debt we currently are oppressed with, will double if not triple within a year or two of the war with Iran. Our current $15 trillion debt will seem like "the good old days" when our debt was NOT $30 TRILLION OR $60 TRILLION. The reason I say this, is that Iran is a puppet state of both Russia and China. Because of this, our war will be against both China and Russian The only white lining to this dark cloud is that Iran, Russia and China will also be financially strapped for cash as soon as a vicious war commences.
The follow is reported on the internet of each of their economies:
Iranian economy:
TEHRAN, Iran — An escalation in war rhetoric in recent weeks, coupled with increasingly punitive measures taken by the US and Europe against Iran’s ability to do business with the rest of the world, is wreaking havoc on the Iranian economy.
Each day brings new price hikes as confidence in the Iranian currency, the rial, diminishes dramatically.
“It’s bad for us, too. In the past, Iran produced everything we needed. Now we don’t even grow enough rice,” said Hamed, who runs his family’s market in central Tehran. “We have to pay more to import goods for our customers. Unfortunately that means higher prices.”
In the week since US President Barack Obama signed new legislation that included provisions to impose trade sanctions on Iran’s central bank, which would in effect cut it off completely from the global banking system, there is a heightened sense of concern that the country may be on a path to confrontation with Western powers, including the US and Israel.
Chinese economy:
"A looming hard landing in China will bring the financial and economic crisis of the past five years to a climax in 2012, one of the City of London's leading analysts has warned.
Albert Edwards, head of strategy at Société Générale and one of the UK's leading "bears", said the next 12 months would be the "final year of pain and disappointment".
Predicting a sharp slowdown in activity in the world's fastest-growing emerging economy, Edwards said: "There is a likelihood of a China hard landing this year. It is hard to think 2013 and onwards will be any worse than this year if China hard-lands."
Russian economy:
"The World Bank downgraded on Thursday the forecast for Russia's economic growth in 2011 to 4 percent from 4.4 percent. The bank also lowered its forecast for Russia's GDP in 2012 from 4.0 to 3.8 percent due to expected falling oil prices."
[end quotes]
The stupidity of it all, is that Soetoro is bringing the troops home from Iraq and we will merely need to have them return so that we can maintain promised protection of our ally Israel. It is my prediction that Israel will be nuked by the Iranians...and then the dog poopie will really hit the fan!
And NO, YOU ARE WRONG... as is McDonough. Gas will not be a mere $10 per gallon. It will soar to $15 to $20 per gallon! "That" my friend, is what no one is saying...you heard it first from me!
Edward C. Noonan
NBC PRESIDENT 2012
To: Rich
date: Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:08 AM
subject: Re: McDonough on WCBM tonight......
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Rich
near the close of his show McDonough(MD. politician) said that he had a strong feeling that things were about to happen in the Middle East.. he said that our Navy has arrived and a possible war with Iran was close!! he also said that it will affect our country and destroy our economy(too late) when oil jumps to 10 bucks a barrel!!
Sure sounds to me like they are setting the stage for Martial Law...........
Rich,
MY REPLY
FROM THE DESK OF EDWARD C. NOONAN
I would heartily agree with McDonough's assessment of the looming war with Iran. And yes, the war with Iran has been rumored for several years...since George Bush Sr at least (if not prior).
And the financial crisis to our country will be "the last straw" in our doomed economy. The $15 Trillion debt we currently are oppressed with, will double if not triple within a year or two of the war with Iran. Our current $15 trillion debt will seem like "the good old days" when our debt was NOT $30 TRILLION OR $60 TRILLION. The reason I say this, is that Iran is a puppet state of both Russia and China. Because of this, our war will be against both China and Russian The only white lining to this dark cloud is that Iran, Russia and China will also be financially strapped for cash as soon as a vicious war commences.
The follow is reported on the internet of each of their economies:
Iranian economy:
TEHRAN, Iran — An escalation in war rhetoric in recent weeks, coupled with increasingly punitive measures taken by the US and Europe against Iran’s ability to do business with the rest of the world, is wreaking havoc on the Iranian economy.
Each day brings new price hikes as confidence in the Iranian currency, the rial, diminishes dramatically.
“It’s bad for us, too. In the past, Iran produced everything we needed. Now we don’t even grow enough rice,” said Hamed, who runs his family’s market in central Tehran. “We have to pay more to import goods for our customers. Unfortunately that means higher prices.”
In the week since US President Barack Obama signed new legislation that included provisions to impose trade sanctions on Iran’s central bank, which would in effect cut it off completely from the global banking system, there is a heightened sense of concern that the country may be on a path to confrontation with Western powers, including the US and Israel.
Chinese economy:
"A looming hard landing in China will bring the financial and economic crisis of the past five years to a climax in 2012, one of the City of London's leading analysts has warned.
Albert Edwards, head of strategy at Société Générale and one of the UK's leading "bears", said the next 12 months would be the "final year of pain and disappointment".
Predicting a sharp slowdown in activity in the world's fastest-growing emerging economy, Edwards said: "There is a likelihood of a China hard landing this year. It is hard to think 2013 and onwards will be any worse than this year if China hard-lands."
Russian economy:
"The World Bank downgraded on Thursday the forecast for Russia's economic growth in 2011 to 4 percent from 4.4 percent. The bank also lowered its forecast for Russia's GDP in 2012 from 4.0 to 3.8 percent due to expected falling oil prices."
[end quotes]
The stupidity of it all, is that Soetoro is bringing the troops home from Iraq and we will merely need to have them return so that we can maintain promised protection of our ally Israel. It is my prediction that Israel will be nuked by the Iranians...and then the dog poopie will really hit the fan!
And NO, YOU ARE WRONG... as is McDonough. Gas will not be a mere $10 per gallon. It will soar to $15 to $20 per gallon! "That" my friend, is what no one is saying...you heard it first from me!
Edward C. Noonan
NBC PRESIDENT 2012
THREE MORE “OBAMA BALLOT CHALLENGES” REPORTED TO HAVE BEEN FILED IN ILLINOIS
It has just been reported to me that three more nationwide challenges to Obama appearing on the upcoming primary ballots have been filed. This time, it is with the Illinois State Board of Elections.
My source of this information is http://obamaballotchallenge.com/3-obama-ballot-challenges-in-illinois-now. Here the OBAMA BALLOT CHALLENGE group links directly to the Illinois State Board of Elections where the three petitioners are shown:
What is curious is that two dates for “objection” be to filed is past. The Freeman file expired on the 10th, and the Jackson and Meroni’s date of final objection time is the 13th. This would have been last Thursday… so what gives? Will the Obama people still be able to object even though the date has come and gone?
You can also read more about the Article II matter at: http://www.art2superpac.com/index.html
Edward C. Noonan
NBC President 2012
My source of this information is http://obamaballotchallenge.com/3-obama-ballot-challenges-in-illinois-now. Here the OBAMA BALLOT CHALLENGE group links directly to the Illinois State Board of Elections where the three petitioners are shown:
What is curious is that two dates for “objection” be to filed is past. The Freeman file expired on the 10th, and the Jackson and Meroni’s date of final objection time is the 13th. This would have been last Thursday… so what gives? Will the Obama people still be able to object even though the date has come and gone?
You can also read more about the Article II matter at: http://www.art2superpac.com/index.html
Edward C. Noonan
NBC President 2012
Saturday, January 14, 2012
AIP submits Primary Presidential Candidate Names to the California Secretary of State
from: P. B. pb_realestate@yahoo.com
To: "Edward C. Noonan"
date: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:33 AM
subject: Fw: Ballot Access News > Blog Archive > American Independent Party of California Submits List of Proposed Presidential Primary Candidate Names to Secretary of State
Congratulations..
you made the list.
Pamela
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Bill Van Allen
To: Christopher Strunk; PAMELA BARNETT
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:13 AM
Subject: Ballot Access News > Blog Archive > American Independent Party of California Submits List of Proposed Presidential Primary Candidate Names to Secretary of State
http://www.ballot-access.org/2012/01/13/american-independent-party-of-california-submits-list-of-proposed-presidential-primary-candidate-names-to-secretary-of-state/#comments
American Independent Party of California Submits List of Proposed Presidential Primary Candidate Names to Secretary of State January 13th, 2012
In California, qualified minor parties are entitled to a presidential
primary, and by custom, the Secretary of State lets party leaders tell her
which candidates' names to list. On January 13, leaders of the American
Independent Party submitted a list of 14 names. At this point the
individuals on the list have not necessarily agreed to have their names on
the ballot. The Secretary of State's office will contact each one and ask if they wish to be listed.
The fourteen names include former Congressman Virgil Goode of Virginia, who
is believed to desire the Constitution Party's presidential nomination,
although he hasn't formally announced. The other names are: Philip Berg of
Pennsylvania, Laurie Roth of Washington state, Todd Palin of Alaska, Wiley
Drake of California, Ed Noonan of California, George Peabody of Hawaii,
Marvin Ampelman of Massachusetts, Max Riekse of Michigan, Diane Beall of
California, Walter Nayakik of Alaska, Veronica Piva of California, D. Clark
Ambassador for Christ (that is his legal name) of California, and Robert
Sisilo, who is a U.S. citizen who is not registered to vote and who lives
outside the United States.
The most crowded presidential primary ballot in California history, for a
single party, was the 1976 Democratic presidential primary, when ten names
appeared. It is not likely that all fourteen individuals who are on this
list will consent to be listed, so the number of candidates who will appear
on the AIP presidential primary ballot is not yet final.
[end]
To: "Edward C. Noonan"
date: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:33 AM
subject: Fw: Ballot Access News > Blog Archive > American Independent Party of California Submits List of Proposed Presidential Primary Candidate Names to Secretary of State
Congratulations..
you made the list.
Pamela
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Bill Van Allen
To: Christopher Strunk
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:13 AM
Subject: Ballot Access News > Blog Archive > American Independent Party of California Submits List of Proposed Presidential Primary Candidate Names to Secretary of State
http://www.ballot-access.org/2012/01/13/american-independent-party-of-california-submits-list-of-proposed-presidential-primary-candidate-names-to-secretary-of-state/#comments
American Independent Party of California Submits List of Proposed Presidential Primary Candidate Names to Secretary of State January 13th, 2012
In California, qualified minor parties are entitled to a presidential
primary, and by custom, the Secretary of State lets party leaders tell her
which candidates' names to list. On January 13, leaders of the American
Independent Party submitted a list of 14 names. At this point the
individuals on the list have not necessarily agreed to have their names on
the ballot. The Secretary of State's office will contact each one and ask if they wish to be listed.
The fourteen names include former Congressman Virgil Goode of Virginia, who
is believed to desire the Constitution Party's presidential nomination,
although he hasn't formally announced. The other names are: Philip Berg of
Pennsylvania, Laurie Roth of Washington state, Todd Palin of Alaska, Wiley
Drake of California, Ed Noonan of California, George Peabody of Hawaii,
Marvin Ampelman of Massachusetts, Max Riekse of Michigan, Diane Beall of
California, Walter Nayakik of Alaska, Veronica Piva of California, D. Clark
Ambassador for Christ (that is his legal name) of California, and Robert
Sisilo, who is a U.S. citizen who is not registered to vote and who lives
outside the United States.
The most crowded presidential primary ballot in California history, for a
single party, was the 1976 Democratic presidential primary, when ten names
appeared. It is not likely that all fourteen individuals who are on this
list will consent to be listed, so the number of candidates who will appear
on the AIP presidential primary ballot is not yet final.
[end]
Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Reply #2: To Devvy
from: devvyk@******.net
to: "Edward C. Noonan"
date: Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 1:08 PM
subject: RE: My reply...
Hello and thank you for responding.
I read your response.
I don't know about any Jeffrey Max Jones.
Just want to point this out from the Congressional Record I cited, page one column three:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20829167/Natural-Born-Citizen-Congressional-Record-6-14-1967-p-15875-80
"According to Information furnished to me, which I have no reason to doubt, facts regarding the birth and citizenship of Mr. Romney are as follows. His grandfather was Miles Park Romney. In 1885 he left his family In Arizona and moved to Chihuahua, Mexico. One of his children was Gaskel R. Romney, born in the United States in 1871. He did not accompany his father to Mexico, but followed and with the family Joined him in 1887, Gaskel R. Romney being then 16 years old. Gaskel R. Romney was married to Anna Aurelia Pratt in Mexico about 1898. They had 4 children, born in the State of Chihuahua, Mexico: George, the 4th child, being born there on July 8, 1907. This family then moved to El Paso, Texas, where the 5th, 6th and 7th children were born.
"It will be seen from the foregoing that Mr. George Romney was born in Chihuahua, Mexico of an American born father and by virtue of the birth and citizenship of his father in the United States, George was born with dual citizenship, being a citizen of Mexico by birth and becoming a citizen of the United States at birth automatically by naturalization pursuant to the Act of Congress granting automatic natUralization in such circumstances.
"This type of American citizenship is a qualified one and requires an election on his part upon arriving at his majority, or within a reasonable time thereafter. In re Reed, 6 F S 800, State v. Jackson, 65 A 661, Ludlam v. Ludlam, 26 NY 371, Van Dyne on Cit. 38.
"Mr. Romney appears probably to be a citizen of the United States. But, the question under consideration is not one of simple citizenship but rather, whether he is a “natural born citizen” as prescribed in the Constitution of the United States for the Presidency."
Concludes with:
"I find no proper legal or historical basis on which to conclude that a person born outside of the United States could ever be eligible to occupy the Office of the President of the United States. In other words, In my opinion, Mr. George Romney of Michigan is ineligible to become President of the United States because he was born In Mexico and is, therefore, not a natural-born citizen as required by the United States Constitution."
I'm not claiming anything, but I have read a ton of immigration laws over the past week, including Act XXII of Congress February 10, 1855:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=88&invol=162
"In 1855, however, the last provision was somewhat extended, and all persons theretofore born or thereafter to be born out of the limits of the jurisdiction of the United States, whose fathers were, or should be at the time of their birth, citizens of the United States, were declared to be citizens also."
Of course, it is well within your right to request documentation from Willard.
Cordially,
Devvy
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Devvy,
Your second to last paragraph is the heart of the whole matter.
You quote that "In 1855, however, the last provision was somewhat extended, and all persons theretofore born or thereafter to be born out of the limits of the jurisdiction of the United States, whose fathers were, or should be at the time of their birth, citizens of the United States, were declared to be citizens also."
And you seem to be focusing on Gaskell and NOT on Miles Park Romney. And this should be where the focus should be. Gaskell was a minor when he entered Mexico. It was about 1884 or so. And since Gaskell Romney was only about 13 years old, you would have to examine the citizenship of the FATHER (not the mother). The father of the Gaskell (the minor) was Miles Park Romney (whose citizenship is in question). Miles Romney went to Mexico, definitely became a early citizen and NEVER returned to America. Both Miles and his wives died there with him.
The question here, is did MILES PARK ROMNEY convert to Mexican citizenship prior to Gaskell's 21st birthday. If Miles did renounce his American citizenship, then the minor child (Gaskell) would automatically also become a Mexican citizen as per Vattel's Law of Nation, or if you correctly read your 1855 Act XXII of Congress it implies the same... Hence, Mitt Romney would have to prove that his great-grandpa, Miles Park Romney did not become a citizen of Mexico prior to Gaskell (Mitt's grandfather) turning the age of 21. If Gaskell reached this 21st birthday prior to Miles Park Romney becoming a Mexican citizen then Mitt would have a chance at proclaiming Gaskell retained his American citizenship. However, until Mitt does, we have to assume that Miles Park Romney became a Mexican citizen prior to 1892, which would have been the year that Gaskell reached the age of 21.
In one of my earlier posts I uploaded a request for Mexican Residency for Mitt Romney’s other grandfather. I will print it here again:
I do not read Spanish but it is clear that the Pratts, the Romneys and Jones all had early residency agreements with the local, State and Federal Government of Mexico. If you get this blown up and discover that it is not an application for permanent residency in Mexico please let me know. Until then I declare that this is proof positive that Miles Park Romney and the rest of the Mexican colony became full citizens of Mexico and therefore Gaskell Romney became a citizen of Mexico as per the laws in effect in the United States as well as in Mexico.
to: "Edward C. Noonan"
date: Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 1:08 PM
subject: RE: My reply...
I read your response.
I don't know about any Jeffrey Max Jones.
Just want to point this out from the Congressional Record I cited, page one column three:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20829167/Natural-Born-Citizen-Congressional-Record-6-14-1967-p-15875-80
"According to Information furnished to me, which I have no reason to doubt, facts regarding the birth and citizenship of Mr. Romney are as follows. His grandfather was Miles Park Romney. In 1885 he left his family In Arizona and moved to Chihuahua, Mexico. One of his children was Gaskel R. Romney, born in the United States in 1871. He did not accompany his father to Mexico, but followed and with the family Joined him in 1887, Gaskel R. Romney being then 16 years old. Gaskel R. Romney was married to Anna Aurelia Pratt in Mexico about 1898. They had 4 children, born in the State of Chihuahua, Mexico: George, the 4th child, being born there on July 8, 1907. This family then moved to El Paso, Texas, where the 5th, 6th and 7th children were born.
"It will be seen from the foregoing that Mr. George Romney was born in Chihuahua, Mexico of an American born father and by virtue of the birth and citizenship of his father in the United States, George was born with dual citizenship, being a citizen of Mexico by birth and becoming a citizen of the United States at birth automatically by naturalization pursuant to the Act of Congress granting automatic natUralization in such circumstances.
"This type of American citizenship is a qualified one and requires an election on his part upon arriving at his majority, or within a reasonable time thereafter. In re Reed, 6 F S 800, State v. Jackson, 65 A 661, Ludlam v. Ludlam, 26 NY 371, Van Dyne on Cit. 38.
"Mr. Romney appears probably to be a citizen of the United States. But, the question under consideration is not one of simple citizenship but rather, whether he is a “natural born citizen” as prescribed in the Constitution of the United States for the Presidency."
Concludes with:
"I find no proper legal or historical basis on which to conclude that a person born outside of the United States could ever be eligible to occupy the Office of the President of the United States. In other words, In my opinion, Mr. George Romney of Michigan is ineligible to become President of the United States because he was born In Mexico and is, therefore, not a natural-born citizen as required by the United States Constitution."
I'm not claiming anything, but I have read a ton of immigration laws over the past week, including Act XXII of Congress February 10, 1855:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=88&invol=162
"In 1855, however, the last provision was somewhat extended, and all persons theretofore born or thereafter to be born out of the limits of the jurisdiction of the United States, whose fathers were, or should be at the time of their birth, citizens of the United States, were declared to be citizens also."
Of course, it is well within your right to request documentation from Willard.
Cordially,
Devvy
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Devvy,
Your second to last paragraph is the heart of the whole matter.
You quote that "In 1855, however, the last provision was somewhat extended, and all persons theretofore born or thereafter to be born out of the limits of the jurisdiction of the United States, whose fathers were, or should be at the time of their birth, citizens of the United States, were declared to be citizens also."
And you seem to be focusing on Gaskell and NOT on Miles Park Romney. And this should be where the focus should be. Gaskell was a minor when he entered Mexico. It was about 1884 or so. And since Gaskell Romney was only about 13 years old, you would have to examine the citizenship of the FATHER (not the mother). The father of the Gaskell (the minor) was Miles Park Romney (whose citizenship is in question). Miles Romney went to Mexico, definitely became a early citizen and NEVER returned to America. Both Miles and his wives died there with him.
The question here, is did MILES PARK ROMNEY convert to Mexican citizenship prior to Gaskell's 21st birthday. If Miles did renounce his American citizenship, then the minor child (Gaskell) would automatically also become a Mexican citizen as per Vattel's Law of Nation, or if you correctly read your 1855 Act XXII of Congress it implies the same... Hence, Mitt Romney would have to prove that his great-grandpa, Miles Park Romney did not become a citizen of Mexico prior to Gaskell (Mitt's grandfather) turning the age of 21. If Gaskell reached this 21st birthday prior to Miles Park Romney becoming a Mexican citizen then Mitt would have a chance at proclaiming Gaskell retained his American citizenship. However, until Mitt does, we have to assume that Miles Park Romney became a Mexican citizen prior to 1892, which would have been the year that Gaskell reached the age of 21.
In one of my earlier posts I uploaded a request for Mexican Residency for Mitt Romney’s other grandfather. I will print it here again:
I do not read Spanish but it is clear that the Pratts, the Romneys and Jones all had early residency agreements with the local, State and Federal Government of Mexico. If you get this blown up and discover that it is not an application for permanent residency in Mexico please let me know. Until then I declare that this is proof positive that Miles Park Romney and the rest of the Mexican colony became full citizens of Mexico and therefore Gaskell Romney became a citizen of Mexico as per the laws in effect in the United States as well as in Mexico.
MY REPLY TO DEVVY
Devvy asked, "I have ask Mr. Noonan in email if can provide any legitimate evidence (documents) to support his claim that Romney's entire family gave up their U.S. citizenship and became Mexican citizens. Of the many, many hours of reading over the weekend from dozens of searches, I can find nothing to support it, but we'll see if Mr. Noonan responds."
(See)http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd521.htm
MY REPLY TO DEVVY:
Devvy,
First of all, it is not my duty as a candidate for POTUS 2012 to do the genealogy of my fellow candidates when there are questions about their genealogical qualifications to the Office of POTUS. It is merely my sovereign right as a Natural Born Citizen to challenge any candidate that has questionable facts within their lineage.
Secondly, Article II does not specify who has the burden of proof if there is a question regarding the qualifications of a POTUS candidate. This could be the reason why there is so much confusion regarding this single statement of the Constitution. The validation of this is that here in your own article you show two opposing views of this controversy. Your so-called "expert" who swears up and down that Mitt Romney is a NBC and I have disagreed, stating that the Romney NBC questions must be examined more extensively and the question has not been answered nor solved. Even you and "clinical thinker" have doubts and are not convinced 100% either way.
But as a Presidential candidate I am obligated to back up my challenge of Romney as best as I can. So therefore I will provide this following additional "documentation" regarding the Romney citizenship question.
My first "exhibit" is the Wikipedia entry for Jeffrey Max Jones. This gentleman would be in the same generation as Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney was born in 1947 and Jones was born in 1958. Mitt's father, George was born in MMexico in the same Mexican Colony as Jones. There is only 11 years between Mitt and Jones.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Max_Jones
The Jones family apparently remained in Colonia Dublán, Mexico whereas the Romney family did not and left Mexico during the Mexican hostilities. The Jones family could have left and then returned after the hostilities ended... I do not know which. But as you can see, Jeffrey Jones was a Mexican Senator in 2000, and only Mexican citizens can be in the Mexican Senate (as per the present day Mexican Constitution).
By the preponderance of evidence, it is safe to say that both the Jones and Romney family had gained Mexican Citizenship at some point. You seem to be claiming that both ARE CITIZENS OF THE US AND THEIR CITIZENSHIP WILL ALWAYS REMAIN SET IN STONE. I beg to differ. At some point Jones "lost his American citizenship." And likewise, it is my opinion that at some point the Romney family "lost their American citizenship." Jones is clearly now a Mexican citizen and the Romney family magically regained their American citizenship after renouncing their US citizenship and latching onto the Mexican way of life.
But again, I state that I do not have the burden of PROVING the Romneys are American natural born citizens (or not). Both George and his son, Mitt have failed to do so at this time and date. The words are clear..."No person except a natural born Citizen..."
My second "exhibit" is found in the California Elections Code as per the DECLARATION OF CANDIDACY:
10511. The declaration of candidacy shall be in substantially the following form:
I, _________________, do hereby declare myself
as a candidate for election to the office of
President of the United States. (__ Initial here if the
office for which you are running is for the
balance of an unexpired term.) I am a registered
voter. If elected, I will qualify and accept the
office of President of the United States and serve to
the best of my ability. I request my name be
placed on the official ballot of the district
for the election to be held on the ___ day of
_______, 20__, and that my name appear on the
ballot as follows:
____________________
(Print name above)
My current residence address is
_____________________________________
and my telephone number is _________________.
I desire the following occupational designation
to appear on the ballot under my name:
__________________________________
(Print desired designation, if any, above)
This occupational designation is true and in
conformance with Section 13107 of the Elections
Code.
I am aware that any person who files or submits
for filing a declaration of candidacy knowing
that it or any part of it has been made falsely
is punishable by a fine or imprisonment, or
both, as set forth in Section 18203 of the
Elections Code.
I declare under penalty of perjury under the
laws of the State of California that the
foregoing is true and correct.
Executed on _____________________________, 20__,
at _____________________________________ (Place)
__________________________
(Signature of Candidate)
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Please note that Romney had to or will have to fill out a similar Declaration of Candidacy. He will therefore state, "I am qualified and am a Natural Born Citizen."
Because of this I say to Mr. Romney, "I have questions about your genealogy and the citizenship of your Father and I have questions about YOUR CITIZENSHIP." WHAT SAY YOU, MR. ROMNEY?!
I am also saying to Mr. Romney, PRODUCE the evidence that you qualify! It is not my responsibility...it is YOURS!
My qualifications for POTUS can be found at my website:
http://noonan4president.blogspot.com
Edward C. Noonan
President 2012
(See)http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd521.htm
MY REPLY TO DEVVY:
Devvy,
First of all, it is not my duty as a candidate for POTUS 2012 to do the genealogy of my fellow candidates when there are questions about their genealogical qualifications to the Office of POTUS. It is merely my sovereign right as a Natural Born Citizen to challenge any candidate that has questionable facts within their lineage.
Secondly, Article II does not specify who has the burden of proof if there is a question regarding the qualifications of a POTUS candidate. This could be the reason why there is so much confusion regarding this single statement of the Constitution. The validation of this is that here in your own article you show two opposing views of this controversy. Your so-called "expert" who swears up and down that Mitt Romney is a NBC and I have disagreed, stating that the Romney NBC questions must be examined more extensively and the question has not been answered nor solved. Even you and "clinical thinker" have doubts and are not convinced 100% either way.
But as a Presidential candidate I am obligated to back up my challenge of Romney as best as I can. So therefore I will provide this following additional "documentation" regarding the Romney citizenship question.
My first "exhibit" is the Wikipedia entry for Jeffrey Max Jones. This gentleman would be in the same generation as Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney was born in 1947 and Jones was born in 1958. Mitt's father, George was born in MMexico in the same Mexican Colony as Jones. There is only 11 years between Mitt and Jones.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Max_Jones
The Jones family apparently remained in Colonia Dublán, Mexico whereas the Romney family did not and left Mexico during the Mexican hostilities. The Jones family could have left and then returned after the hostilities ended... I do not know which. But as you can see, Jeffrey Jones was a Mexican Senator in 2000, and only Mexican citizens can be in the Mexican Senate (as per the present day Mexican Constitution).
By the preponderance of evidence, it is safe to say that both the Jones and Romney family had gained Mexican Citizenship at some point. You seem to be claiming that both ARE CITIZENS OF THE US AND THEIR CITIZENSHIP WILL ALWAYS REMAIN SET IN STONE. I beg to differ. At some point Jones "lost his American citizenship." And likewise, it is my opinion that at some point the Romney family "lost their American citizenship." Jones is clearly now a Mexican citizen and the Romney family magically regained their American citizenship after renouncing their US citizenship and latching onto the Mexican way of life.
But again, I state that I do not have the burden of PROVING the Romneys are American natural born citizens (or not). Both George and his son, Mitt have failed to do so at this time and date. The words are clear..."No person except a natural born Citizen..."
My second "exhibit" is found in the California Elections Code as per the DECLARATION OF CANDIDACY:
10511. The declaration of candidacy shall be in substantially the following form:
I, _________________, do hereby declare myself
as a candidate for election to the office of
President of the United States. (__ Initial here if the
office for which you are running is for the
balance of an unexpired term.) I am a registered
voter. If elected, I will qualify and accept the
office of President of the United States and serve to
the best of my ability. I request my name be
placed on the official ballot of the district
for the election to be held on the ___ day of
_______, 20__, and that my name appear on the
ballot as follows:
____________________
(Print name above)
My current residence address is
_____________________________________
and my telephone number is _________________.
I desire the following occupational designation
to appear on the ballot under my name:
__________________________________
(Print desired designation, if any, above)
This occupational designation is true and in
conformance with Section 13107 of the Elections
Code.
I am aware that any person who files or submits
for filing a declaration of candidacy knowing
that it or any part of it has been made falsely
is punishable by a fine or imprisonment, or
both, as set forth in Section 18203 of the
Elections Code.
I declare under penalty of perjury under the
laws of the State of California that the
foregoing is true and correct.
Executed on _____________________________, 20__,
at _____________________________________ (Place)
__________________________
(Signature of Candidate)
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Please note that Romney had to or will have to fill out a similar Declaration of Candidacy. He will therefore state, "I am qualified and am a Natural Born Citizen."
Because of this I say to Mr. Romney, "I have questions about your genealogy and the citizenship of your Father and I have questions about YOUR CITIZENSHIP." WHAT SAY YOU, MR. ROMNEY?!
I am also saying to Mr. Romney, PRODUCE the evidence that you qualify! It is not my responsibility...it is YOURS!
My qualifications for POTUS can be found at my website:
http://noonan4president.blogspot.com
Edward C. Noonan
President 2012
Sunday, January 8, 2012
Romney (still) not Natural Born Citizen...
Early LDS members petition the US President (1834)
History of the Church – Vol 1
Second Petition to the President of the United States.
Liberty, Clay County, Missouri, April 10, 1834.
To the President of the United States of America
We, the undersigned, your petitioners, citizens of the United States of America, and residents of the county of Clay, in the state of Missouri, being members of the Church of Christ, reproachfully called "Mormon," beg leave to refer the President to our former petition, dated in October last; and also to lay before him the accompanying hand-bill, dated December 12th, 1833, with assurances that the said hand-bill exhibits but a faint sketch of the sufferings of your petitioners and their brethren, up to the period of its publication.
483 - 484
The said hand-bill shows, that at the time of dispersion a number of our families fled into the new and unsettled county of Van Buren; but being unable to procure provisions in that county through the winter, many of them were compelled to return to their homes in Jackson county or perish of hunger. But they had no sooner set foot upon that soil-which a few months before they had purchased of the United States-than they were again met by the citizens of Jackson county, and a renewal of savage barbarities was inflicted upon these families by beating with clubs and sticks, presenting knives and fire arms, and threatenings of death if they did not flee from the county. These inhuman assaults upon a number of these families were repeated at two or three different times through the past winter, till they were compelled at last to abandon their possessions in Jackson county, and flee with their wounded bodies into this county, here to mingle their tears and unite their supplications, with hundreds of their brethren, to our Heavenly Father and the chief ruler of our nation.
484
Between one and two thousand of the people called "Mormons" had been driven by force of arms from the county of Jackson in this state since the first of November last, being compelled to leave their highly cultivated fields-the greater part of their lands having been bought of the United States-and all this on account of our belief in direct revelation from God to the children of men according to the Holy Scriptures. We know that such illegal violence has not been inflicted upon any sect or community of people by the citizens of the United States since the Declaration of Independence.
That this is a religious persecution is notorious throughout our country; for while the officers of the county, both civil and military, were accomplices in these unparalleled outrages, engaged in the destruction of the printing office, dwelling houses, etc., yet the records of the judicial tribunals of that county are not stained by any record of crime committed by our people. Our numbers being greatly inferior to the enemy were unable to stand in self defense; and our lives, at this day, are continually threatened by that infuriated people, so that our personal safety forbids one of our number going into that county on business.
We beg leave to state that no impartial investigation into this criminal matter can be made, because the offenders must be tried in the county where the offense was committed, and the inhabitants of the county, both magistrates and people, with the exception of a few, being combined, justice cannot be expected. At this day your petitioners do not know of a solitary family belonging to our Church in Jackson county but what has been violently expelled from that county by the inhabitants thereof.
Your petitioners have not gone into detail with an account of their individual sufferings from death, and bruised bodies, and the universal distress which prevails at this day, in a greater or less degree throughout our community. Not only have those sacred rights guaranteed to every religious sect been publicly invaded, in open hostility to the spirit and genius of our free government; but such of their houses as have not been burnt, and their lands and most of the products of the labor of their hands for the last year, have been wrested from them by a band of outlaws congregated in Jackson county, on the western frontiers of the United States, and this within about thirty miles of the United States military post at Fort Leavenworth, on the Missouri river.
484 - 485
Your petitioners say that they do not enter into a minute detail of their sufferings in this petition lest they should weary the patience of their venerable chief, whose arduous duties they know are great, and daily accumulating. We only hope to show him that this is an unprecedented emergency in the history of our country, that the magistracy thereof is set at defiance, and justice checked in open violation of its laws; and that we, your petitioners, who are almost wholly native born citizens of these United States, of whom we purchased our lands in Jackson county, Missouri, with intent to cultivate the same as peaceable citizens, are now forced from them, and are now dwelling in the counties of Clay, Ray and Lafayette, in the state of Missouri, without permanent homes, and suffering all the privations which must necessarily result from such inhuman treatment. Under these sufferings your petitioners petitioned the governor of this state in December last, in answer to which they received the following letter:
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485
By the foregoing letter from the Governor, the President will perceive a disposition manifested by him to enforce the laws as far as means have been furnished him by the legislature of this state. But the powers vested in the executive of this state appear to be inadequate for relieving the distresses of your petitioners in their present emergency. He is willing to send a guard to conduct our families back to their possessions, but is not authorized to direct a military force to be stationed any length of time for the protection of your petitioners. This step would be laying the foundation for a more fatal tragedy than the first, as our numbers at present are too small to contend single handed with the mob of said county; and as the Federal Constitution has given to Congress the power to provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the Union, suppress insurrections, or repel invasions: and for these purposes the President of the United States is authorized to make the call upon the executive of the respective states; therefore, we your petitioners, in behalf of our society, which is so scattered and suffering, most humbly pray that we may be restored to our lands, houses, and property in Jackson county, and protected in them by an armed force, till peace can be restored. And as in duty bound, will ever pray.
Here followed one hundred and fourteen signatures, among whom were: Edward Partridge, John Corrill, John Whitmer, Isaac Morley, A. S. Gilbert, W. W. Phelps, etc., etc.
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On another webpage states the following:
The Mormon Colonies in Mexico
Thomas Cottam Romney
Mormon Studies
"Romney’s unique vantage point is the strongest draw of this narrative: Romney and his family lived much of their life in the Mexican Mormon colonies. But the narrative’s value is much broader and deeper than just that. Romney’s insights into Mexican politics and personalities, and his view of the course of history from inside rather than from outside, are fascinating, colorful and opinionated. He was clear about who he admired and why, and who he did not."
—from the Foreword
In the 1880s, as a precondition to granting Utah statehood, the United States government enacted laws to put a stop to the Mormon practice of polygamy. Those who continued to practice this principle were forced underground as federal marshals roamed the territory searching for "polygs." In response, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints looked for safe places to send its members; many found refuge across the border in Mexico.
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All Constitutional rights of the LDS were stripped away by Federal, State and local authorities. For the most part The LDS were not citizens of any state or territory, and voting rights, the right to own property and hold elected office were stripped from the LDS. The LDS had no citizenship and could not claim the rights that all other citizens had. Here is a second webpage describing the Mormon entrance into Mexico.
The Mormons Seek Mexican Lands to Colonize
By: Thomas Cottam Romney
From: "The Mormon Colonies in Mexico" 1938
While the doctrines of the Church were being preached with vigor by the Mormon elders in the city of Mexico and its environs, a movement was being launched by the Church toward the purchase of lands in Mexico on which to plant colonies. Such an exigency arose because of the widespread opposition to polygamy-a social institution of the Mormons.
Now this order of marriage should not be confused with the marriage commonly in vogue among the membership of the Mormon Church. I refer to Celestial marriage. Before ever plural marriage was revealed, Joseph Smith had received a revelation (May 16 and 17, 1843 ) dealing with "Celestial" marriage, referred to, also, as the "everlasting covenant of marriage." In this revelation it was revealed that in the Celestial glory there are three degrees and that in order to attain to the highest of these a man must enter into the new and everlasting covenant of marriage; "if he does not, he cannot obtain it."
A compliance with this law merely means that a man in full harmony with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints takes a woman to the temple and in the presence of witnesses has her sealed to him over the altar as a wife for time and all eternity. The sealing must be performed by one authorized of the Lord, and according to the Mormon belief there is only one man on the earth at one time who holds that authority. The President of the Church is that man, but since it is not feasible or even desirable for him to perform all the temple marriages of the Church, he has the power to delegate others to act in his stead. The marriage ceremony, unlike the civil ceremony or even that of other churches, unites a couple not only for this life but its binding force is perpetuated beyond
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the grave. Under this order of marriage all children born under this covenant will belong to the couple so united, eternally.
This doctrine is based, obviously, on the assumption that the family organization consisting of father, mother and children will continue on in the metaphysical world, or what we ordinarily think of as the "spiritual world."
Now "plural marriage" connotes all this and more. More, in the sense only that instead of a man having but one wife sealed to him he will have two or more thus united with him in wedlock.
The doctrine of "plural marriage," commonly known as "polygamy," from the days of Nauvoo, had been one of the cardinal doctrines of the Church. It is a historical fact, not generally known, that but few of the male members of the Church at any one time entered into that order of marriage. Yet the vast majority of the devotees of the Church believed it to be a divine principle. Brigham Young usually has been accredited, by the uninformed, with having first introduced polygamy into the Church, but such is not historically true. Joseph Smith, Jr., the founder of Mormonism, was responsible for its introduction among his followers. The revelation setting forth the principle of "plurality of wives" and commanding its practice was given to the Prophet in Nauvoo, Illinois, July 12, 1843, less than one year before his death at Carthage jail. The Revelation appears to have come as a result of a query in the mind of Joseph Smith, Jr., as to why the Lord justified the practice of polygamy by the Patrirachs of the Bible including Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, Moses, David and Solomon. Adultery is condemned in the strongest terms in the Revelation but the doctrine of "plurality of wives" entered into in the spirit of righteousness is declared holy. If a man is given "ten virgins" in marriage for time and eternity by the law of the Lord, the Revelation declares that "he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him, therefore is he justified."
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Joseph, the Prophet, lived the principle as well as having taught it if the testimony of his most intimate friends can be relied upon. A number of women of known veracity testified to having been sealed to the Prophet in Nauvoo as his wives.
Long since, the Church discontinued the practice of polygamy, yet, in the days of which I write, those who had contracted plural marriages felt they had neither broken the laws of God nor of man and, to their credit be it said, many of them would have stood by their families to the death.
A bitter war was on against the practice by enemies of the Church and, in instances, devout and well meaning men and women denounced the doctrine in most vigorous terms. Even the Government joined in the fight. Legislative enactment by Congress, known as the Edmunds Tucker Act, against the practice of plural marriage, resulted in the prosecution and imprisonment of scores of devout believers in the doctrine of polygamy. Many who had not yet come to trial or imprisonment were in constant hiding in order to escape the clutches of laws deemed by them to be unconstitutional as well as tyrannical in the extreme. Husbands were separated from wives and children in many instances from their parents. Homes that had known nothing but contentment and peace were broken up and terror reigned throughout the land.
This state of affairs induced John Taylor and George Q. Cannon of the First Presidency of the Church to address a letter to President Christopher Layton of an Arizona Stake suggesting that an effort be made to obtain "a place of refuge under a foreign government to which our people can flee." The letter was dated Dec. 16, 1884, and in part is as follows, "A general attack is being made upon our liberties throughout all the territories where our people reside. It is said that prosecuting officers in making this raid are acting under instructions from the department at Washington. Whether this be true or not, there can be no question that
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there is apparently a concert of action on their part to push our people to the wall and to destroy our religious liberty and with it our religion itself. Even the Utah Commissioners in making their report to the government recommend measures not to punish polygamy alone but to destroy our religion. In Utah Territory God-fearing men, whose only offense is that they have obeyed a command of the Almighty, are thrust into prison while appeals are pending in a higher court, being refused bail, a boon which should be granted to every person not guilty of a capital offense. These men are incarcerated in the penitentiary in the midst of a crowd of the vilest criminals, one of whom is a convicted murderer. In Arizona we learn that the same course is being pursued, that to be accused before any of these courts is equivalent to being convicted. The usual rule is entirely reversed. Under a proper system of jurisprudence an accused man is presumed to be innocent until proof of his guilt is furnished. Our counsel has been and is to obtain a place of refuge under a foreign government to which our people can flee when menaced in this land. Better for parts of families to remove and go where they can live in peace than to be hauled to jail and either incarcerated in the territory with thieves and murderers and other vile characters, or sent to the American Siberia in Detroit to serve out a long term of imprisonment.
The Saints in your various Stakes should contribute of their means to form a defense fund so that our brethren who are assailed will not in addition to the anxiety and annoyance which they have had to endure, be compelled to bear the brunt of defending themselves alone. This should be vigorously pushed and the fund be made available at once. We send this by the hand of Elder Seymour B. Young who will also be able to state to you our feelings more in detail than the limits of this letter will permit."
In a letter addressed to Seymour B. Young these same correspondents wrote: "You will see from what was said to you and from our letter how important we think it is that
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there should be a place of refuge obtained for our people, a place to which the eyes of those who are in jeopardy and who are oppressed may turn with some hope of finding some peace and liberty which are denied in their own land."
Ante-dating the above letter, exploring expeditions had gone into Mexico for the purpose of locating suitable places for Mormon settlements, but with little success. In 1881, Alexander Findlay Macdonald, David Kimball, C. I. Robinson and one or two others made a trip into Sonora, and in 1882 a party of thirty-two moved to a ranch on the San Bernardino river at a point where the boundary lines of the two Mexican states, Sonora and Chihuahua and Arizona and New Mexico meet with the intention of establishing the first Mormon colony in Mexico, but due to a scarcity of farming land, the group was counselled by Apostles Snow and Thatcher to abandon the project. No further moves were made in the direction of settlement until 1884 when Apostles Brigham Young, Jr., and Heber J. Grant, accompanied by parties from the Salt River and St. Joseph settlements of Arizona, attempted to make a treaty with the Yaqui Indians to settle in southwestern Sonora. The party of twenty-four went by train from Nogales, Arizona, to Hermosillo, Sonora, and arrived there on December 3rd. Elders Young, Grant and Macdonald called at the state capitol to pay their respects to the Governor but he was absent. They therefore called upon the Secretary of State who gave them an enthusiastic welcome. He counselled them, however, against going into the Yaqui country as the Indians were on the warpath. The following day, December 4th, members of the expedition visited the Governor upon his return to the capital and from him they received the same advice as had been given them by the Secretary of State. The Governor offered to give them an escort into any part of the State into which they wished to go.
At two o'clock in the afternoon a group o£ seven men under the leadership of Brigham Young, Jr., left by train
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for Guaymas, located near the mouth of the Yaqui river, and arrived at their destination on the evening of the same day. The following morning they called on the American Consul, Mr. Willard, from whom they received encouragement to pay the Yaqui Indians a visit. For the sum of fifteen dollars they chartered a boat to take them down the Yaqui river to its mouth and return. When ready to embark a multitude of natives, including a Catholic priest, congregated on the river bank to witness the departure of the boat and to warn the members of the expedition of the urgent need of confessing their sins and making restitution for the same before entering upon their perilous journey. Even their guide, Valenzuela, fearful of the undertaking, refused to accompany them. A terrific gale was blowing and for several hours it seemed that the boat would be dashed to pieces by the angry waves. Without accident, however, they finally reached the port for which they were headed, but imagine their dismay when they learned that to reach the Yaqui village they must wade knee deep through the water for a distance of five miles. Undaunted, they pushed forward to their destination and were rewarded by a kindly welcome from a race of Indians whose war-like reputation had spread terror throughout northern Mexico. The Mormon elders were glad of the privilege of bearing testimony to the Christian faith but no conversions were reported. The exposures and hardships of the trip proved disastrous to the health of the Mormon Apostle, Brigham Young, Jr. Attacked by yellow fever he left for Salt Lake City accompanied by Heber J. Grant, his fellow Apostle, who was also ill. As soon as the report of the expedition to Mexico was made public the press agents throughout the country sought to stir up strife by circulating a scurrilous tale which reflected upon the loyalty of the Latter-day Saints toward the United States. The story was to the effect that the Mormons were in collusion with the Yaqui Indians to make war upon the American Union. With the thought of forestalling
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further trouble the President of the Church advised against colonization in the Yaqui territory, for the time being at least.
Pursuant to instructions from the Presidency of the Church, Alexander F. Macdonald [O. P. Brown's third father-in-law] and Christopher Layton [O.P. Brown sister's father-in-law] left St. David, Arizona, on January 1, 1885, in further quest of land in Mexico. At the station of San Jose on the Mexican Central Railroad, the travellers found a group of Mormons engaged in hauling salt. The personnel of the party consisted of John W. Campbell, Joseph Rogers, John Loving and Peter McBride. They had gone into Mexico to seek employment but principally to locate a home. Macdonald and Layton did considerable scouting in various parts of the country but principally along the Casas Grandes River in northern Chihuahua. In this region they visited Corralitos, Janos and La Ascencion and were impressed with the facilities offered for making a livelihood. At Corralitos 300 acres of fertile land were rented which were soon thereafter planted to crops by Mormon colonists. Leaving the Casas Grandes Valley, Macdonald and companion pushed westward into the tops of the Sierra Madre Mountains and explored the Corrales Basin, beautiful for situation and offering splendid opportunities for grazing and agricultural pursuits. From this point the two explorers went directly to their homes in Arizona. In the meantime small companies of home seekers came pouring in from different parts of Utah and Arizona and established themselves along the banks of the Casas Grandes River. Among the first to arrive was a band from Arizona, most prominent of whom were Jesse N. Smith, George C. Williams, Lot Smith, William B. Maxwell and William C. McClellan. These pioneers had arrived sometime in February, 1885. On the 4th of March 1885 the same year this group was joined by a company led by Apostle Moses Thatcher and Alexander. F. Macdonald who had left St. David, Arizona, February 23 1885, and had come by team by way of Dragoon Pass, Bowie Station, San Simon Station and Mesquite Springs. On March 6, 1885
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others arrived headed by John H. Earl, Joseph H. James, Israel Call and, a few days later, these companies were strengthened by the arrival of other colonists, chiefly from Snowflake, Arizona, among whom were Chas. W. Merrill, Levi M. Savage, Charles Whiting, Sullivan C. Richardson, Ernest L. Taylor, Joseph and Philip Cardon and Sixtus E. Johnson. This was the beginning of Mormon Colonization in Mexico that finally resulted in the establishment of eight permanent Mormon settlements, six of which were located in the state of Chihuahua and the other two in Sonora.
Practically all of the early arrivals were of very limited means; not that they were a class devoid of financial ability, but their accumulations had largely been dissipated during the years of persecution that had preceded their advent into Mexico. The question of a livelihood in a strange land was therefore one of prime importance. To secure lands sufficient and suitable for cultivation the colonists established themselves in several small communities stretching along the Casas Grandes River for a distance of more than 60 miles. The first camps organized were adjacent to La Ascension, a typical Mexican village about ninety miles South of Deming, New Mexico, and not far from the spot on which later arose Colonia Diaz, one of the largest Mormon settlements in Mexico. The other important camps in this early period, were one at a point five miles north of Casas Grandes on the Casas Grandes River and from La Ascencion about 60 miles, and one at Corralitos, about twelve miles north of Casas Grandes. There were about 350 colonists in Mexico six weeks after the arrival of the first group. In the latter part of April, 1885, an exploring party consisting of George Teasdale, an Apostle of the Church, A. F. Macdonald [O.P. Brown's third father-in-law], Miles Park Romney [O.P. Brown's first father-in-law] and others were sent out in quest of other suitable lands for settlements. The journey took them up the Janos River as far as Casa de Janos, where they discovered a level tract of land of 1000 acres in extent, but nothing tangible resulted
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from their trip. In the month of May, Moses Thatcher went to Paso del Norte (Cuidad Juarez) across the Rio Grande from El Paso to negotiate for the purchase of a tract of land offered by R. J. Garcia for $10,000 but the deal was not made due to the owner changing his mind relative to the price of the property.
The influx of Mormon refugees into Mexico and their increasing activity aroused the suspicion and dislike of certain local Mexican officials, foremost of whom were the Jefe Politico of the Canton de Galeana. In a letter addressed to the Secretary of the State of Chihuahua, he announced that an armed force of Mormons had come into the state without declaring their intentions, the implication being that they had come for conquest. In reply the Secretary of State declared that the Mormons must be ordered out of the country at once or as soon as it was possible for them to comply with the orders. On April 9 1885, a letter was received by A. F. Macdonald from the chief magistrate of Casas Grandes in which reference is made to the expulsion order of the Secretary of State. The letter concludes with the following: "According to the foregoing which I have transcribed for your information, I hereby command you, together with the other families which you represent, to leave the state within the period of 16 days from this date, April 9, 1885."
Immediately upon receipt of the letter, Macdonald went to the camp Corralitos to confer with George Teasdale, the Ecclesiastical head of the colonists in Mexico since the return of Moses Thatcher to Salt Lake City. The situation was truly grave. The band of Mormon exiles were facing deportation to a land from whence they had fled to escape the wrath of their enemies. To forestall such an eventuality steps must be taken at once. On the 11th of April 1885, Teasdale, Macdonald, Turley and Moffatt left by train for Chihuahua City to intercede with the governor of the state for an annulment of the expulsion edict. They arrived at San Jose on the Mexican Central Railroad
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and left by rail for the city of Chihuahua at once, arriving there on the 15th of April 1885. Their conference with the Governor proved disappointing. He was adamant to their supplication and strongly insisted that the Mormons must quit the State. A letter was written at once to Moses Thatcher at Logan, Utah, relative to the matter, and the following day a telegram was dispatched to him by Church authorities asking him to go to the City of Mexico to intercede with the federal officials in behalf of the colonists. A letter was received from Moses Thatcher in answer to the message sent him, April 27th, in which he stated that Helaman Pratt, then a missionary in Mexico City, had been asked to request of the head of the government a stay of proceedings until Moses Thatcher and Brigham Young, Jr., could arrive at the Capital. Upon receipt of the telegram, Helaman Pratt, in company with a fellow missionary, Franklin R. Snow, called upon a prominent lawyer of Mexico City for assistance in getting the matter properly before the heads of the government, but he demanded $100 in advance, an amount the elders could not reach. They therefore repaired to the national capitol to lay the matter before Senor Carlos Pacheco, Minister of Colonization, but were requested to call the following day when an interview would be granted. The following day, April 28, Pratt and Snow were admitted to the national palace and had an interview with Senor Fernandez Leal, subminister, who promised to use his influence in favor of the Mormons. On May 9, 1885, Apostle Brigham Young, Jr., and Moses Thatcher arrived in Mexico City. Reporting their visit by letter to A. F. Macdonald from the Humboldt Hotel, May 15, 1885, they stated that they had met Helaman Pratt, Franklin R. Snow and Isaac J. Stewart, who "are quite hopeful of the future for Mexico and her people. We found that your application for a stay of proceedings was acted upon and the document highly spoken of by the Federal officials. Brother Pratt had also been busy and we have experienced the results of their labors. We have met
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Secretary of State Mariscal, who received us warmly and manifested an honest desire to forward our interests by his influence with the President and Cabinet. We have had two interviews with Senor Don Carlos Pacheco, Secretary of Public Work, and Governor of Chihuahua. He expressed personal regards for our people and in all our conversation, when opportunity afforded, expressed the hope that the Mormons would conclude to colonize within the Mexican borders." He said he was astonished and could not understand why the Mormons had received such abusive treatment as he had given orders to the acting governor to treat them courteously. He explained that he was Governor of Chihuahua, but had not had time to go to the state to give the matter his personal attention, but if a letter were addressed to him, enclosing the acting Governor's order, he would act upon it officially. The result was that the acting Governor was finally removed from office by Minister Pacheco, and another man put in his place.
In an interview with President Porfirio Diaz, the Mormon Apostles were informed that the Mormons were not only welcome as colonists in Mexico, but that the Government was anxious to have them help in the development of the country. Should they find suitable locations in Sonora and Chihuahua, they could settle there or they would be equally welcome any place else they might choose to live in, except in what was known as "Zona Prohibida." Those of the colonists who had located on such lands were ordered to vacate such holdings immediately after the harvesting of their crops and to seek another location. The expulsion edict was annulled. The Mormons remained in Mexico.
History of the Church – Vol 1
Second Petition to the President of the United States.
Liberty, Clay County, Missouri, April 10, 1834.
To the President of the United States of America
We, the undersigned, your petitioners, citizens of the United States of America, and residents of the county of Clay, in the state of Missouri, being members of the Church of Christ, reproachfully called "Mormon," beg leave to refer the President to our former petition, dated in October last; and also to lay before him the accompanying hand-bill, dated December 12th, 1833, with assurances that the said hand-bill exhibits but a faint sketch of the sufferings of your petitioners and their brethren, up to the period of its publication.
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The said hand-bill shows, that at the time of dispersion a number of our families fled into the new and unsettled county of Van Buren; but being unable to procure provisions in that county through the winter, many of them were compelled to return to their homes in Jackson county or perish of hunger. But they had no sooner set foot upon that soil-which a few months before they had purchased of the United States-than they were again met by the citizens of Jackson county, and a renewal of savage barbarities was inflicted upon these families by beating with clubs and sticks, presenting knives and fire arms, and threatenings of death if they did not flee from the county. These inhuman assaults upon a number of these families were repeated at two or three different times through the past winter, till they were compelled at last to abandon their possessions in Jackson county, and flee with their wounded bodies into this county, here to mingle their tears and unite their supplications, with hundreds of their brethren, to our Heavenly Father and the chief ruler of our nation.
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Between one and two thousand of the people called "Mormons" had been driven by force of arms from the county of Jackson in this state since the first of November last, being compelled to leave their highly cultivated fields-the greater part of their lands having been bought of the United States-and all this on account of our belief in direct revelation from God to the children of men according to the Holy Scriptures. We know that such illegal violence has not been inflicted upon any sect or community of people by the citizens of the United States since the Declaration of Independence.
That this is a religious persecution is notorious throughout our country; for while the officers of the county, both civil and military, were accomplices in these unparalleled outrages, engaged in the destruction of the printing office, dwelling houses, etc., yet the records of the judicial tribunals of that county are not stained by any record of crime committed by our people. Our numbers being greatly inferior to the enemy were unable to stand in self defense; and our lives, at this day, are continually threatened by that infuriated people, so that our personal safety forbids one of our number going into that county on business.
We beg leave to state that no impartial investigation into this criminal matter can be made, because the offenders must be tried in the county where the offense was committed, and the inhabitants of the county, both magistrates and people, with the exception of a few, being combined, justice cannot be expected. At this day your petitioners do not know of a solitary family belonging to our Church in Jackson county but what has been violently expelled from that county by the inhabitants thereof.
Your petitioners have not gone into detail with an account of their individual sufferings from death, and bruised bodies, and the universal distress which prevails at this day, in a greater or less degree throughout our community. Not only have those sacred rights guaranteed to every religious sect been publicly invaded, in open hostility to the spirit and genius of our free government; but such of their houses as have not been burnt, and their lands and most of the products of the labor of their hands for the last year, have been wrested from them by a band of outlaws congregated in Jackson county, on the western frontiers of the United States, and this within about thirty miles of the United States military post at Fort Leavenworth, on the Missouri river.
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Your petitioners say that they do not enter into a minute detail of their sufferings in this petition lest they should weary the patience of their venerable chief, whose arduous duties they know are great, and daily accumulating. We only hope to show him that this is an unprecedented emergency in the history of our country, that the magistracy thereof is set at defiance, and justice checked in open violation of its laws; and that we, your petitioners, who are almost wholly native born citizens of these United States, of whom we purchased our lands in Jackson county, Missouri, with intent to cultivate the same as peaceable citizens, are now forced from them, and are now dwelling in the counties of Clay, Ray and Lafayette, in the state of Missouri, without permanent homes, and suffering all the privations which must necessarily result from such inhuman treatment. Under these sufferings your petitioners petitioned the governor of this state in December last, in answer to which they received the following letter:
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By the foregoing letter from the Governor, the President will perceive a disposition manifested by him to enforce the laws as far as means have been furnished him by the legislature of this state. But the powers vested in the executive of this state appear to be inadequate for relieving the distresses of your petitioners in their present emergency. He is willing to send a guard to conduct our families back to their possessions, but is not authorized to direct a military force to be stationed any length of time for the protection of your petitioners. This step would be laying the foundation for a more fatal tragedy than the first, as our numbers at present are too small to contend single handed with the mob of said county; and as the Federal Constitution has given to Congress the power to provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the Union, suppress insurrections, or repel invasions: and for these purposes the President of the United States is authorized to make the call upon the executive of the respective states; therefore, we your petitioners, in behalf of our society, which is so scattered and suffering, most humbly pray that we may be restored to our lands, houses, and property in Jackson county, and protected in them by an armed force, till peace can be restored. And as in duty bound, will ever pray.
Here followed one hundred and fourteen signatures, among whom were: Edward Partridge, John Corrill, John Whitmer, Isaac Morley, A. S. Gilbert, W. W. Phelps, etc., etc.
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On another webpage states the following:
The Mormon Colonies in Mexico
Thomas Cottam Romney
Mormon Studies
"Romney’s unique vantage point is the strongest draw of this narrative: Romney and his family lived much of their life in the Mexican Mormon colonies. But the narrative’s value is much broader and deeper than just that. Romney’s insights into Mexican politics and personalities, and his view of the course of history from inside rather than from outside, are fascinating, colorful and opinionated. He was clear about who he admired and why, and who he did not."
—from the Foreword
In the 1880s, as a precondition to granting Utah statehood, the United States government enacted laws to put a stop to the Mormon practice of polygamy. Those who continued to practice this principle were forced underground as federal marshals roamed the territory searching for "polygs." In response, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints looked for safe places to send its members; many found refuge across the border in Mexico.
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All Constitutional rights of the LDS were stripped away by Federal, State and local authorities. For the most part The LDS were not citizens of any state or territory, and voting rights, the right to own property and hold elected office were stripped from the LDS. The LDS had no citizenship and could not claim the rights that all other citizens had. Here is a second webpage describing the Mormon entrance into Mexico.
The Mormons Seek Mexican Lands to Colonize
By: Thomas Cottam Romney
From: "The Mormon Colonies in Mexico" 1938
While the doctrines of the Church were being preached with vigor by the Mormon elders in the city of Mexico and its environs, a movement was being launched by the Church toward the purchase of lands in Mexico on which to plant colonies. Such an exigency arose because of the widespread opposition to polygamy-a social institution of the Mormons.
Now this order of marriage should not be confused with the marriage commonly in vogue among the membership of the Mormon Church. I refer to Celestial marriage. Before ever plural marriage was revealed, Joseph Smith had received a revelation (May 16 and 17, 1843 ) dealing with "Celestial" marriage, referred to, also, as the "everlasting covenant of marriage." In this revelation it was revealed that in the Celestial glory there are three degrees and that in order to attain to the highest of these a man must enter into the new and everlasting covenant of marriage; "if he does not, he cannot obtain it."
A compliance with this law merely means that a man in full harmony with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints takes a woman to the temple and in the presence of witnesses has her sealed to him over the altar as a wife for time and all eternity. The sealing must be performed by one authorized of the Lord, and according to the Mormon belief there is only one man on the earth at one time who holds that authority. The President of the Church is that man, but since it is not feasible or even desirable for him to perform all the temple marriages of the Church, he has the power to delegate others to act in his stead. The marriage ceremony, unlike the civil ceremony or even that of other churches, unites a couple not only for this life but its binding force is perpetuated beyond
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the grave. Under this order of marriage all children born under this covenant will belong to the couple so united, eternally.
This doctrine is based, obviously, on the assumption that the family organization consisting of father, mother and children will continue on in the metaphysical world, or what we ordinarily think of as the "spiritual world."
Now "plural marriage" connotes all this and more. More, in the sense only that instead of a man having but one wife sealed to him he will have two or more thus united with him in wedlock.
The doctrine of "plural marriage," commonly known as "polygamy," from the days of Nauvoo, had been one of the cardinal doctrines of the Church. It is a historical fact, not generally known, that but few of the male members of the Church at any one time entered into that order of marriage. Yet the vast majority of the devotees of the Church believed it to be a divine principle. Brigham Young usually has been accredited, by the uninformed, with having first introduced polygamy into the Church, but such is not historically true. Joseph Smith, Jr., the founder of Mormonism, was responsible for its introduction among his followers. The revelation setting forth the principle of "plurality of wives" and commanding its practice was given to the Prophet in Nauvoo, Illinois, July 12, 1843, less than one year before his death at Carthage jail. The Revelation appears to have come as a result of a query in the mind of Joseph Smith, Jr., as to why the Lord justified the practice of polygamy by the Patrirachs of the Bible including Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, Moses, David and Solomon. Adultery is condemned in the strongest terms in the Revelation but the doctrine of "plurality of wives" entered into in the spirit of righteousness is declared holy. If a man is given "ten virgins" in marriage for time and eternity by the law of the Lord, the Revelation declares that "he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him, therefore is he justified."
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Joseph, the Prophet, lived the principle as well as having taught it if the testimony of his most intimate friends can be relied upon. A number of women of known veracity testified to having been sealed to the Prophet in Nauvoo as his wives.
Long since, the Church discontinued the practice of polygamy, yet, in the days of which I write, those who had contracted plural marriages felt they had neither broken the laws of God nor of man and, to their credit be it said, many of them would have stood by their families to the death.
A bitter war was on against the practice by enemies of the Church and, in instances, devout and well meaning men and women denounced the doctrine in most vigorous terms. Even the Government joined in the fight. Legislative enactment by Congress, known as the Edmunds Tucker Act, against the practice of plural marriage, resulted in the prosecution and imprisonment of scores of devout believers in the doctrine of polygamy. Many who had not yet come to trial or imprisonment were in constant hiding in order to escape the clutches of laws deemed by them to be unconstitutional as well as tyrannical in the extreme. Husbands were separated from wives and children in many instances from their parents. Homes that had known nothing but contentment and peace were broken up and terror reigned throughout the land.
This state of affairs induced John Taylor and George Q. Cannon of the First Presidency of the Church to address a letter to President Christopher Layton of an Arizona Stake suggesting that an effort be made to obtain "a place of refuge under a foreign government to which our people can flee." The letter was dated Dec. 16, 1884, and in part is as follows, "A general attack is being made upon our liberties throughout all the territories where our people reside. It is said that prosecuting officers in making this raid are acting under instructions from the department at Washington. Whether this be true or not, there can be no question that
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there is apparently a concert of action on their part to push our people to the wall and to destroy our religious liberty and with it our religion itself. Even the Utah Commissioners in making their report to the government recommend measures not to punish polygamy alone but to destroy our religion. In Utah Territory God-fearing men, whose only offense is that they have obeyed a command of the Almighty, are thrust into prison while appeals are pending in a higher court, being refused bail, a boon which should be granted to every person not guilty of a capital offense. These men are incarcerated in the penitentiary in the midst of a crowd of the vilest criminals, one of whom is a convicted murderer. In Arizona we learn that the same course is being pursued, that to be accused before any of these courts is equivalent to being convicted. The usual rule is entirely reversed. Under a proper system of jurisprudence an accused man is presumed to be innocent until proof of his guilt is furnished. Our counsel has been and is to obtain a place of refuge under a foreign government to which our people can flee when menaced in this land. Better for parts of families to remove and go where they can live in peace than to be hauled to jail and either incarcerated in the territory with thieves and murderers and other vile characters, or sent to the American Siberia in Detroit to serve out a long term of imprisonment.
The Saints in your various Stakes should contribute of their means to form a defense fund so that our brethren who are assailed will not in addition to the anxiety and annoyance which they have had to endure, be compelled to bear the brunt of defending themselves alone. This should be vigorously pushed and the fund be made available at once. We send this by the hand of Elder Seymour B. Young who will also be able to state to you our feelings more in detail than the limits of this letter will permit."
In a letter addressed to Seymour B. Young these same correspondents wrote: "You will see from what was said to you and from our letter how important we think it is that
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there should be a place of refuge obtained for our people, a place to which the eyes of those who are in jeopardy and who are oppressed may turn with some hope of finding some peace and liberty which are denied in their own land."
Ante-dating the above letter, exploring expeditions had gone into Mexico for the purpose of locating suitable places for Mormon settlements, but with little success. In 1881, Alexander Findlay Macdonald, David Kimball, C. I. Robinson and one or two others made a trip into Sonora, and in 1882 a party of thirty-two moved to a ranch on the San Bernardino river at a point where the boundary lines of the two Mexican states, Sonora and Chihuahua and Arizona and New Mexico meet with the intention of establishing the first Mormon colony in Mexico, but due to a scarcity of farming land, the group was counselled by Apostles Snow and Thatcher to abandon the project. No further moves were made in the direction of settlement until 1884 when Apostles Brigham Young, Jr., and Heber J. Grant, accompanied by parties from the Salt River and St. Joseph settlements of Arizona, attempted to make a treaty with the Yaqui Indians to settle in southwestern Sonora. The party of twenty-four went by train from Nogales, Arizona, to Hermosillo, Sonora, and arrived there on December 3rd. Elders Young, Grant and Macdonald called at the state capitol to pay their respects to the Governor but he was absent. They therefore called upon the Secretary of State who gave them an enthusiastic welcome. He counselled them, however, against going into the Yaqui country as the Indians were on the warpath. The following day, December 4th, members of the expedition visited the Governor upon his return to the capital and from him they received the same advice as had been given them by the Secretary of State. The Governor offered to give them an escort into any part of the State into which they wished to go.
At two o'clock in the afternoon a group o£ seven men under the leadership of Brigham Young, Jr., left by train
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for Guaymas, located near the mouth of the Yaqui river, and arrived at their destination on the evening of the same day. The following morning they called on the American Consul, Mr. Willard, from whom they received encouragement to pay the Yaqui Indians a visit. For the sum of fifteen dollars they chartered a boat to take them down the Yaqui river to its mouth and return. When ready to embark a multitude of natives, including a Catholic priest, congregated on the river bank to witness the departure of the boat and to warn the members of the expedition of the urgent need of confessing their sins and making restitution for the same before entering upon their perilous journey. Even their guide, Valenzuela, fearful of the undertaking, refused to accompany them. A terrific gale was blowing and for several hours it seemed that the boat would be dashed to pieces by the angry waves. Without accident, however, they finally reached the port for which they were headed, but imagine their dismay when they learned that to reach the Yaqui village they must wade knee deep through the water for a distance of five miles. Undaunted, they pushed forward to their destination and were rewarded by a kindly welcome from a race of Indians whose war-like reputation had spread terror throughout northern Mexico. The Mormon elders were glad of the privilege of bearing testimony to the Christian faith but no conversions were reported. The exposures and hardships of the trip proved disastrous to the health of the Mormon Apostle, Brigham Young, Jr. Attacked by yellow fever he left for Salt Lake City accompanied by Heber J. Grant, his fellow Apostle, who was also ill. As soon as the report of the expedition to Mexico was made public the press agents throughout the country sought to stir up strife by circulating a scurrilous tale which reflected upon the loyalty of the Latter-day Saints toward the United States. The story was to the effect that the Mormons were in collusion with the Yaqui Indians to make war upon the American Union. With the thought of forestalling
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further trouble the President of the Church advised against colonization in the Yaqui territory, for the time being at least.
Pursuant to instructions from the Presidency of the Church, Alexander F. Macdonald [O. P. Brown's third father-in-law] and Christopher Layton [O.P. Brown sister's father-in-law] left St. David, Arizona, on January 1, 1885, in further quest of land in Mexico. At the station of San Jose on the Mexican Central Railroad, the travellers found a group of Mormons engaged in hauling salt. The personnel of the party consisted of John W. Campbell, Joseph Rogers, John Loving and Peter McBride. They had gone into Mexico to seek employment but principally to locate a home. Macdonald and Layton did considerable scouting in various parts of the country but principally along the Casas Grandes River in northern Chihuahua. In this region they visited Corralitos, Janos and La Ascencion and were impressed with the facilities offered for making a livelihood. At Corralitos 300 acres of fertile land were rented which were soon thereafter planted to crops by Mormon colonists. Leaving the Casas Grandes Valley, Macdonald and companion pushed westward into the tops of the Sierra Madre Mountains and explored the Corrales Basin, beautiful for situation and offering splendid opportunities for grazing and agricultural pursuits. From this point the two explorers went directly to their homes in Arizona. In the meantime small companies of home seekers came pouring in from different parts of Utah and Arizona and established themselves along the banks of the Casas Grandes River. Among the first to arrive was a band from Arizona, most prominent of whom were Jesse N. Smith, George C. Williams, Lot Smith, William B. Maxwell and William C. McClellan. These pioneers had arrived sometime in February, 1885. On the 4th of March 1885 the same year this group was joined by a company led by Apostle Moses Thatcher and Alexander. F. Macdonald who had left St. David, Arizona, February 23 1885, and had come by team by way of Dragoon Pass, Bowie Station, San Simon Station and Mesquite Springs. On March 6, 1885
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others arrived headed by John H. Earl, Joseph H. James, Israel Call and, a few days later, these companies were strengthened by the arrival of other colonists, chiefly from Snowflake, Arizona, among whom were Chas. W. Merrill, Levi M. Savage, Charles Whiting, Sullivan C. Richardson, Ernest L. Taylor, Joseph and Philip Cardon and Sixtus E. Johnson. This was the beginning of Mormon Colonization in Mexico that finally resulted in the establishment of eight permanent Mormon settlements, six of which were located in the state of Chihuahua and the other two in Sonora.
Practically all of the early arrivals were of very limited means; not that they were a class devoid of financial ability, but their accumulations had largely been dissipated during the years of persecution that had preceded their advent into Mexico. The question of a livelihood in a strange land was therefore one of prime importance. To secure lands sufficient and suitable for cultivation the colonists established themselves in several small communities stretching along the Casas Grandes River for a distance of more than 60 miles. The first camps organized were adjacent to La Ascension, a typical Mexican village about ninety miles South of Deming, New Mexico, and not far from the spot on which later arose Colonia Diaz, one of the largest Mormon settlements in Mexico. The other important camps in this early period, were one at a point five miles north of Casas Grandes on the Casas Grandes River and from La Ascencion about 60 miles, and one at Corralitos, about twelve miles north of Casas Grandes. There were about 350 colonists in Mexico six weeks after the arrival of the first group. In the latter part of April, 1885, an exploring party consisting of George Teasdale, an Apostle of the Church, A. F. Macdonald [O.P. Brown's third father-in-law], Miles Park Romney [O.P. Brown's first father-in-law] and others were sent out in quest of other suitable lands for settlements. The journey took them up the Janos River as far as Casa de Janos, where they discovered a level tract of land of 1000 acres in extent, but nothing tangible resulted
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from their trip. In the month of May, Moses Thatcher went to Paso del Norte (Cuidad Juarez) across the Rio Grande from El Paso to negotiate for the purchase of a tract of land offered by R. J. Garcia for $10,000 but the deal was not made due to the owner changing his mind relative to the price of the property.
The influx of Mormon refugees into Mexico and their increasing activity aroused the suspicion and dislike of certain local Mexican officials, foremost of whom were the Jefe Politico of the Canton de Galeana. In a letter addressed to the Secretary of the State of Chihuahua, he announced that an armed force of Mormons had come into the state without declaring their intentions, the implication being that they had come for conquest. In reply the Secretary of State declared that the Mormons must be ordered out of the country at once or as soon as it was possible for them to comply with the orders. On April 9 1885, a letter was received by A. F. Macdonald from the chief magistrate of Casas Grandes in which reference is made to the expulsion order of the Secretary of State. The letter concludes with the following: "According to the foregoing which I have transcribed for your information, I hereby command you, together with the other families which you represent, to leave the state within the period of 16 days from this date, April 9, 1885."
Immediately upon receipt of the letter, Macdonald went to the camp Corralitos to confer with George Teasdale, the Ecclesiastical head of the colonists in Mexico since the return of Moses Thatcher to Salt Lake City. The situation was truly grave. The band of Mormon exiles were facing deportation to a land from whence they had fled to escape the wrath of their enemies. To forestall such an eventuality steps must be taken at once. On the 11th of April 1885, Teasdale, Macdonald, Turley and Moffatt left by train for Chihuahua City to intercede with the governor of the state for an annulment of the expulsion edict. They arrived at San Jose on the Mexican Central Railroad
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and left by rail for the city of Chihuahua at once, arriving there on the 15th of April 1885. Their conference with the Governor proved disappointing. He was adamant to their supplication and strongly insisted that the Mormons must quit the State. A letter was written at once to Moses Thatcher at Logan, Utah, relative to the matter, and the following day a telegram was dispatched to him by Church authorities asking him to go to the City of Mexico to intercede with the federal officials in behalf of the colonists. A letter was received from Moses Thatcher in answer to the message sent him, April 27th, in which he stated that Helaman Pratt, then a missionary in Mexico City, had been asked to request of the head of the government a stay of proceedings until Moses Thatcher and Brigham Young, Jr., could arrive at the Capital. Upon receipt of the telegram, Helaman Pratt, in company with a fellow missionary, Franklin R. Snow, called upon a prominent lawyer of Mexico City for assistance in getting the matter properly before the heads of the government, but he demanded $100 in advance, an amount the elders could not reach. They therefore repaired to the national capitol to lay the matter before Senor Carlos Pacheco, Minister of Colonization, but were requested to call the following day when an interview would be granted. The following day, April 28, Pratt and Snow were admitted to the national palace and had an interview with Senor Fernandez Leal, subminister, who promised to use his influence in favor of the Mormons. On May 9, 1885, Apostle Brigham Young, Jr., and Moses Thatcher arrived in Mexico City. Reporting their visit by letter to A. F. Macdonald from the Humboldt Hotel, May 15, 1885, they stated that they had met Helaman Pratt, Franklin R. Snow and Isaac J. Stewart, who "are quite hopeful of the future for Mexico and her people. We found that your application for a stay of proceedings was acted upon and the document highly spoken of by the Federal officials. Brother Pratt had also been busy and we have experienced the results of their labors. We have met
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Secretary of State Mariscal, who received us warmly and manifested an honest desire to forward our interests by his influence with the President and Cabinet. We have had two interviews with Senor Don Carlos Pacheco, Secretary of Public Work, and Governor of Chihuahua. He expressed personal regards for our people and in all our conversation, when opportunity afforded, expressed the hope that the Mormons would conclude to colonize within the Mexican borders." He said he was astonished and could not understand why the Mormons had received such abusive treatment as he had given orders to the acting governor to treat them courteously. He explained that he was Governor of Chihuahua, but had not had time to go to the state to give the matter his personal attention, but if a letter were addressed to him, enclosing the acting Governor's order, he would act upon it officially. The result was that the acting Governor was finally removed from office by Minister Pacheco, and another man put in his place.
In an interview with President Porfirio Diaz, the Mormon Apostles were informed that the Mormons were not only welcome as colonists in Mexico, but that the Government was anxious to have them help in the development of the country. Should they find suitable locations in Sonora and Chihuahua, they could settle there or they would be equally welcome any place else they might choose to live in, except in what was known as "Zona Prohibida." Those of the colonists who had located on such lands were ordered to vacate such holdings immediately after the harvesting of their crops and to seek another location. The expulsion edict was annulled. The Mormons remained in Mexico.
Saturday, January 7, 2012
LETTER TO MY STATE PARTY CHAIRMAN
FROM:
Edward C. Noonan
President 2012
Olivehurst, CA 95961
(530) 845-5186 – ednoonan7@gmail.com
To: Mark Seidenberg
State Chairman – American Independent Party
Mark,
As per your instructions I am to write you a letter with a Statement that I am a candidate for POTUS 2012.
I am requesting that you add me to the list that you will be sending to the Secretary of State (SOS) on or after Jan 7, 2012 as per instructions of the SOS webpage.
I swear under penalty of perjury that I qualify for the office of POTUS:
Article II – US Constitution
• No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;
• neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years,
• and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
There has been no immigration in my family for these 5 generations.
All above are NATURAL BORN CITIZENS.
Qualification #1:
As per above pedigree chart, I am a natural born citizen. My father, Claude Elza Davis was born in 1888 in Tehama Co, CA. His father (my grandfather), Jacob Davis was born in Greene Co, Missouri in 1847. His wife, my grandmother was Virginia Farrell, was b. 1866 in Shasta Co, CA
My mother, Martha Helen Wright was b. 1919 in Oklahoma. Her father, William Wright was b. 1856 in Burnet Co, TX. Her mother, Chrissie Wright (my grandmother) was b. 1886 in Eastland Co, TX.
My entire genealogy can be found on ancestry.com or familysearch.org. Documentation is available upon request.
Qualification #2:
I am well past the 35 age requirement. I am currently 63 years old. I was born on Sept 25, 1948 in Prescott, Arizona. I do not have a birth certificate but I have valid State of California adoption documents showing my birth, and place of birth. I was adopted at the age of 4, but have since been reunited with my birth family and have bonded with them instead.
Qualification #3:
I have been a resident of the United States all my life. I have never resided in any country other than the United States. I have never spent a night of my life in any other country. However, I spent a few hours across the border in Mexico, once across the border in El Paso, TX, and one another visit across the border near San Diego.
PLEASE NOTE:
I spent 4 years (1969-1973) in the US Army and was given an honorable discharge (E5). I served my entire 4 years at only two Army posts. One was Fort Ord, CA for basic training and then the remainder of the time at Fort Eustis, VA. I never left the states. I started out as a Harbor Craft operator but was enlisted by the Group Commander to edit and write the 7th Transportation Group’s newspaper. Hence I spent most of my time as a newspaper editor.
I am a registered voter of Yuba County at my new address, 11th Ave, Olivehurst, CA 95961. I re-registered on Dec 29, 2011 and my new affidavit # **** 466287.
If there are any questions you can contact me there or by phone at the phone number at the heading of this letter. Else my email address.
Sincerely
(s) Edward C. Noonan
President 2012
Yuba County Elector
Wednesday, January 4, 2012
Rick Santorum can't prove he is Natural Born Citizen
NOW THIS I HAVE NEVER HEARD BEFORE!
Clinicalthinker, thank you for the headsup! Where have I been? Not a squeak has been heard on any of the news channels about the accusations that Rick Santorum may not be a natural born citizen. So I did the following research:
Wikipedia states:
Santorum was born in Winchester, Virginia, and raised in Berkeley County, West Virginia, and Butler County, Pennsylvania. He is a son of Aldo Santorum (1923-2011)[6][7] and his wife, Catherine Santorum (née Dughi, born 1918).[7] His father was an Italian immigrant, originally from Riva del Garda, Italy,[6] and his mother is of half-Italian and half-Irish descent.[8][9][10][11]
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Rick Santorum’s father died one year ago. The internet records:
In Memory of
Aldo Santorum
January 9, 1923 - January 15, 2011
http://obits.dignitymemorial.com/dignity-memorial/obituary.aspx?n=Aldo-Santorum&lc=2310&pid=148126334&mid=4518909
Aldo Santorum, 88, passed away January 15, 2011. Arrangements under the direction of National Cremation & Burial Society, Jacksonville, FL 904-346-3331.
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Another obituary states:
Aldo Santorum
(there was a cost of $2.95 for the Obituary: (I didn't pay the $2.95 so I don't get the full obituary). But is gives the 1st 25 words:
Dr. Aldo Santorum, 88, was born on January 9, 1923 in Riva de Garda, Italy. He died at home on January 15, 2011. He...
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/islandpacket/obituary-preview.aspx?n=aldo-santorum&pid=147937816&referrer=2377#storylink=cpy
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A more complete obituary is found online at
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/obituaries/news/s_719135.html
Psychologist Aldo Santorum devoted career to fellow veterans
By Salena Zito, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Friday, January 21, 2011
Aldo Santorum called the GI Bill the greatest gift he received. He gave back by building a career and family around veterans hospitals.
"We always lived on the campus of the veterans hospitals. It was called the domiciliary," said his son, former Sen. Rick Santorum of Penn Hills. "I always joked that I spent my childhood living in public housing."
Aldo Santorum of Crescent Beach, Fla., a clinical psychologist for the VA, died Saturday, Jan. 15, 2011, in the home where he and his wife, Catherine Dughi, lived the past 20 years. He was 88.
Mr. Santorum was born in the Trento province of Italy to Maria and Pietro Santorum. Aldo, his mother, older brother Bruno and younger sister Carla moved to the Johnstown area when he was 7 to join his father, who came to the United States five years earlier.
"My grandfather was working in the auto industry but lost his job during the Depression," Rick Santorum said. "He finally found a job in the coal mines of Western Pennsylvania in 1929 and the family joined him."
The family lived in a company town called Carpenters Park. "After several years in the mines, the family moved upscale to nearby Tyler Hill," Santorum said.
Mr. Santorum joined the Army Air Corps in 1942 after high school, serving most of World War II in the South Pacific where his main job was repairing airplanes.
After returning from the war, he earned a psychology degree from St. Francis College in Loretto, a graduate degree from Catholic University in Washington and a doctorate in clinical psychology from the University of Ottawa.
"He then went to work for the Veterans Administration and that is where he met my mom," Rick Santorum said.
Catherine Dughi worked for the VA as an administrative nurse, and both were assigned to the VA hospital in Martinsburg, W.Va. After having three children -- Barbara, Rick and Dan -- the family moved to the Butler VA Hospital in the early 1960s, where they stayed for more than a decade.
They were transferred one more time, in 1974, to North Chicago. When Mr. Santorum retired in 1990, he and his wife moved to Crescent Beach.
"My father had a muscle disorder that was never fully diagnosed. When he retired he was already using a cane; in the last years he was in a wheelchair," Rick Santorum said.
"He was always the cook of the family. On Sundays we would always have pasta and sauce. When I was a kid, I didn't like his sauce -- it was too heavy -- but now I find myself making the same thing for my kids," he said. The favorite meal for the Santorum children was Dad's black bean soup.
"Dad was a talker. He was always on the phone telling me what I was doing right, but more often what I was doing wrong," Santorum said.
Both parents were active in Santorum's early congressional career, working phones and polls and moving temporarily to Mt. Lebanon in 1994 for his successful run for U.S. Senate.
In addition to his wife and children, Mr. Santorum is survived by 10 grandchildren. A memorial service will be held Saturday in Corpus Christi Church in Crescent Beach.
Read at: Psychologist Aldo Santorum devoted career to fellow veterans - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/obituaries/news/s_719135.html#ixzz1iVvgYFac
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World Net Daily has the best “Family History.” I quote the last half of their article that is found at:
http://www.wnd.com/2011/12/376953/
“…Questions had remained about Santorum’s status, based on his repeated references to his immigrant father.
But Catherine Santorum, the former senator’s mother, told WND, “I was born in the country; I have my birth certificate, and I have the citizenship papers of my husband Aldo,” Rick Santorum’s father.
She said published reports that place Aldo Santorum in U.S. military uniform from 1942 to 1946 are correct.
“He was in the Army Air Corps, in India and elsewhere. And I
have records of that too,” she said.
As she evidently was born in the country, and Rick Santorum’s father would have been granted citizenship based on his military service long before the former senator’s birth in 1958, the evidence strongly indicates Santorum’s eligibility.
His campaign declined to respond to WND requests for comment.
The testimony of Catherine Santorum regarding her son’s eligibility for president was sought after public records in Somerset and Mifflin counties in Pennsylvania and the Department of Defense yielded no definitive answer.
These public records reveal that father Aldo Santorum was one of more than eight million Americans who served in uniform in World War II, yet the Department of Defense made available on the Internet the war service records of only several hundred thousands, Aldo Santorum not among them. And there was no record that Aldo Santorum obtained citizenship in Somerset County, Pa., the logical place where Aldo Santorum’s father, Pietro, could have automatically conferred it on him by taking the oath of allegiance. Rick Santorum’s grandfather departed from Riva del Garda, Italy, and arrived in New York in 1923, being “lawfully admitted,” according to the official Certificate of Arrival of the U.S. Department of Labor, Bureau of Naturalization, a copy of which is in the possession of WND. Pietro ultimately moved to Somerset County and there, in 1927, he renounced allegiance to any foreign power, according to another document obtained by WND. Aldo, also born in Italy, came to the U.S. at the age of 7 in 1930 with his mother, but no documents yet confirm his status at that time or up to his apparent departure for war in 1942.
However, Catherine’s statements affirm Aldo’s citizenship a few years later.
On Rick Santorum’s mother’s side, the records show that Dominic Dughi, an Italian citizen and grandfather of Catherine Santorum, arrived in Mifflin County, Pa., in 1893 after having entered the country legally through New York. In 1899, Dughi made a Declaration of Intention to become a U.S. citizen, according to the Mifflin County court record, a copy of which WND obtained. But the subsequent confirmation of an oath of allegiance is not available. Adam John Dughi, Dominic’s son and the father of Catherine Santorum, may or may not have been an Italian citizen at the time of his birth. He later married Mayme Keane in 1916. Their child, Catherine, was presumably born in the U.S.
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MY COMMENTS ON THE ABOVE...
I find it strange that no citizenship papers have been produced for Rick Santorum’s mother or for his grandfather. And it is critical that her OATH OF ALLIANCE be available. If not, then Santorum cannot assert that he is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Both parents have to be NATURALIZED CITIZENS prior to the birth of the child before that child can claim to be NON-ALIEN but a full fledged native citizen (NBC) of the United States.
So at this point, Rich Santorum has not provided the proper proof of his Natural Born Citizenship qualifications. Art II demands that the candidate for POTUS be qualified and therefore prove that qualification.
Edward C. Noonan
President 2012
Clinicalthinker, thank you for the headsup! Where have I been? Not a squeak has been heard on any of the news channels about the accusations that Rick Santorum may not be a natural born citizen. So I did the following research:
Wikipedia states:
Santorum was born in Winchester, Virginia, and raised in Berkeley County, West Virginia, and Butler County, Pennsylvania. He is a son of Aldo Santorum (1923-2011)[6][7] and his wife, Catherine Santorum (née Dughi, born 1918).[7] His father was an Italian immigrant, originally from Riva del Garda, Italy,[6] and his mother is of half-Italian and half-Irish descent.[8][9][10][11]
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Rick Santorum’s father died one year ago. The internet records:
In Memory of
Aldo Santorum
January 9, 1923 - January 15, 2011
http://obits.dignitymemorial.com/dignity-memorial/obituary.aspx?n=Aldo-Santorum&lc=2310&pid=148126334&mid=4518909
Aldo Santorum, 88, passed away January 15, 2011. Arrangements under the direction of National Cremation & Burial Society, Jacksonville, FL 904-346-3331.
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Another obituary states:
Aldo Santorum
(there was a cost of $2.95 for the Obituary: (I didn't pay the $2.95 so I don't get the full obituary). But is gives the 1st 25 words:
Dr. Aldo Santorum, 88, was born on January 9, 1923 in Riva de Garda, Italy. He died at home on January 15, 2011. He...
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/islandpacket/obituary-preview.aspx?n=aldo-santorum&pid=147937816&referrer=2377#storylink=cpy
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A more complete obituary is found online at
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/obituaries/news/s_719135.html
Psychologist Aldo Santorum devoted career to fellow veterans
By Salena Zito, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Friday, January 21, 2011
Aldo Santorum called the GI Bill the greatest gift he received. He gave back by building a career and family around veterans hospitals.
"We always lived on the campus of the veterans hospitals. It was called the domiciliary," said his son, former Sen. Rick Santorum of Penn Hills. "I always joked that I spent my childhood living in public housing."
Aldo Santorum of Crescent Beach, Fla., a clinical psychologist for the VA, died Saturday, Jan. 15, 2011, in the home where he and his wife, Catherine Dughi, lived the past 20 years. He was 88.
Mr. Santorum was born in the Trento province of Italy to Maria and Pietro Santorum. Aldo, his mother, older brother Bruno and younger sister Carla moved to the Johnstown area when he was 7 to join his father, who came to the United States five years earlier.
"My grandfather was working in the auto industry but lost his job during the Depression," Rick Santorum said. "He finally found a job in the coal mines of Western Pennsylvania in 1929 and the family joined him."
The family lived in a company town called Carpenters Park. "After several years in the mines, the family moved upscale to nearby Tyler Hill," Santorum said.
Mr. Santorum joined the Army Air Corps in 1942 after high school, serving most of World War II in the South Pacific where his main job was repairing airplanes.
After returning from the war, he earned a psychology degree from St. Francis College in Loretto, a graduate degree from Catholic University in Washington and a doctorate in clinical psychology from the University of Ottawa.
"He then went to work for the Veterans Administration and that is where he met my mom," Rick Santorum said.
Catherine Dughi worked for the VA as an administrative nurse, and both were assigned to the VA hospital in Martinsburg, W.Va. After having three children -- Barbara, Rick and Dan -- the family moved to the Butler VA Hospital in the early 1960s, where they stayed for more than a decade.
They were transferred one more time, in 1974, to North Chicago. When Mr. Santorum retired in 1990, he and his wife moved to Crescent Beach.
"My father had a muscle disorder that was never fully diagnosed. When he retired he was already using a cane; in the last years he was in a wheelchair," Rick Santorum said.
"He was always the cook of the family. On Sundays we would always have pasta and sauce. When I was a kid, I didn't like his sauce -- it was too heavy -- but now I find myself making the same thing for my kids," he said. The favorite meal for the Santorum children was Dad's black bean soup.
"Dad was a talker. He was always on the phone telling me what I was doing right, but more often what I was doing wrong," Santorum said.
Both parents were active in Santorum's early congressional career, working phones and polls and moving temporarily to Mt. Lebanon in 1994 for his successful run for U.S. Senate.
In addition to his wife and children, Mr. Santorum is survived by 10 grandchildren. A memorial service will be held Saturday in Corpus Christi Church in Crescent Beach.
Read at: Psychologist Aldo Santorum devoted career to fellow veterans - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/obituaries/news/s_719135.html#ixzz1iVvgYFac
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World Net Daily has the best “Family History.” I quote the last half of their article that is found at:
http://www.wnd.com/2011/12/376953/
“…Questions had remained about Santorum’s status, based on his repeated references to his immigrant father.
But Catherine Santorum, the former senator’s mother, told WND, “I was born in the country; I have my birth certificate, and I have the citizenship papers of my husband Aldo,” Rick Santorum’s father.
She said published reports that place Aldo Santorum in U.S. military uniform from 1942 to 1946 are correct.
“He was in the Army Air Corps, in India and elsewhere. And I
have records of that too,” she said.
As she evidently was born in the country, and Rick Santorum’s father would have been granted citizenship based on his military service long before the former senator’s birth in 1958, the evidence strongly indicates Santorum’s eligibility.
His campaign declined to respond to WND requests for comment.
The testimony of Catherine Santorum regarding her son’s eligibility for president was sought after public records in Somerset and Mifflin counties in Pennsylvania and the Department of Defense yielded no definitive answer.
These public records reveal that father Aldo Santorum was one of more than eight million Americans who served in uniform in World War II, yet the Department of Defense made available on the Internet the war service records of only several hundred thousands, Aldo Santorum not among them. And there was no record that Aldo Santorum obtained citizenship in Somerset County, Pa., the logical place where Aldo Santorum’s father, Pietro, could have automatically conferred it on him by taking the oath of allegiance. Rick Santorum’s grandfather departed from Riva del Garda, Italy, and arrived in New York in 1923, being “lawfully admitted,” according to the official Certificate of Arrival of the U.S. Department of Labor, Bureau of Naturalization, a copy of which is in the possession of WND. Pietro ultimately moved to Somerset County and there, in 1927, he renounced allegiance to any foreign power, according to another document obtained by WND. Aldo, also born in Italy, came to the U.S. at the age of 7 in 1930 with his mother, but no documents yet confirm his status at that time or up to his apparent departure for war in 1942.
However, Catherine’s statements affirm Aldo’s citizenship a few years later.
On Rick Santorum’s mother’s side, the records show that Dominic Dughi, an Italian citizen and grandfather of Catherine Santorum, arrived in Mifflin County, Pa., in 1893 after having entered the country legally through New York. In 1899, Dughi made a Declaration of Intention to become a U.S. citizen, according to the Mifflin County court record, a copy of which WND obtained. But the subsequent confirmation of an oath of allegiance is not available. Adam John Dughi, Dominic’s son and the father of Catherine Santorum, may or may not have been an Italian citizen at the time of his birth. He later married Mayme Keane in 1916. Their child, Catherine, was presumably born in the U.S.
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MY COMMENTS ON THE ABOVE...
I find it strange that no citizenship papers have been produced for Rick Santorum’s mother or for his grandfather. And it is critical that her OATH OF ALLIANCE be available. If not, then Santorum cannot assert that he is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Both parents have to be NATURALIZED CITIZENS prior to the birth of the child before that child can claim to be NON-ALIEN but a full fledged native citizen (NBC) of the United States.
So at this point, Rich Santorum has not provided the proper proof of his Natural Born Citizenship qualifications. Art II demands that the candidate for POTUS be qualified and therefore prove that qualification.
Edward C. Noonan
President 2012
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